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Hutt Rec Games - Bellevue and buses etc

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about 11 years ago · edited about 11 years ago · History

The Mallard Moa

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about 11 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Absolutely TL. 

The restrictions they have had put on them in the last decade have destroyed it for the promoters and many of the fans who used to go week in and week out.  They even had to run one of the traditional New Year nights in Huntly FFS.

Of course they would move. 

Thanks to a bunch of blow ins they have killed off the viability of a sports venue that had been there for 60 years before most of these people would have gone near Grey Lynn.  Grey Lynn was a much nicer place before them.

If the council had treated an employee like they have Speedway it would be constructive dismisal and they would get done in court for it.

I agree wholeheartedly HN. I have no time for people who move next to a pre existing sporting venue then complain about it. It's like moving next to an airport and demanding quieter/less flights and only between the hours of 7am and 7pm. In this case I do feel for the speedway people who may have to move and I hope eventually they get a better deal. The Warriors is a tough one because they have a huge following south.

Anyway miles off topic as mentioned. I love the look of Hutt Rec and I hope it's a huge success that promps serious thought/investment into something more permanent in the Wellington area. I'll be watching with great interest from another 'big bad stadium' that no one goes to :)

Fuck this stupid game

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about 11 years ago

The behind goal stands look great for watching from..nice wide angle shot.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 11 years ago

Think of the children, where are people going to walk their dogs?

Hutt Rec should of had a 4 sided with rounded corners stand years ago. Nothing huge, just for a crowd of 10-12k.

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about 11 years ago

Oceanic6 wrote:

Nets are up, am guessing the yellow ones will be up on game day.

The yellow nets haven't been used in the A-League for a few seasons now. That was a Solo sponsorship thing. Wouldn't be surprised if the nets at HR are borrowed from RoF.

Fuck this stupid game

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about 11 years ago

Oceanic6 wrote:

3 days to go!  Forecast is for rubbish weather, but I hope it's wrong.  

Metservice:

  • 16°C High
  • 11°C Overnight

Cloudy periods, odd shower. Fresh southerlies.

Issued: 1:34pm 11 Feb

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about 11 years ago

So pumped for these games, Have got spare tickets for each of the games to bring down people who have never been to a game!! Making it a lads roadtrip! COYN

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about 11 years ago

TopLeft07 wrote:

Oceanic6 wrote:

Nets are up, am guessing the yellow ones will be up on game day.

The yellow nets haven't been used in the A-League for a few seasons now. That was a Solo sponsorship thing. Wouldn't be surprised if the nets at HR are borrowed from RoF.

Word on the street is that the Nix ordered some Yellow and black striped nets at the start of the season when they saw that other A-League teams were doing custom net colours.

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about 11 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

Oceanic6 wrote:

Nets are up, am guessing the yellow ones will be up on game day.

The yellow nets haven't been used in the A-League for a few seasons now. That was a Solo sponsorship thing. Wouldn't be surprised if the nets at HR are borrowed from RoF.

Word on the street is that the Nix ordered some Yellow and black striped nets at the start of the season when they saw that other A-League teams were doing custom net colours.

I attempted to make that happen when we needed to buy new nets at Westpac but it was shut down 'because of strict FFA blanket playing field requirements'...or something like that. Nice to hear they have changed their stance.

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about 11 years ago

Oceanic6 wrote:

3 days to go!  Forecast is for rubbish weather, but I hope it's wrong.  

Nets are up, am guessing the yellow ones will be up on game day.

   

Wonder how its going to look on TV cause you just know the Aussie media are gonna try fudge us for playing at a sharkhole ground.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 11 years ago

At least there's no cricket block in the middle of our sharkhole ground pitch.

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about 11 years ago

I don't know how they can have a go at us, theyve been doing 'community' rounds in the A-League for a little bit now. We're probably the last side  to take a game out into the 'burbs

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about 11 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

I don't know how they can have a go at us, theyve been doing 'community' rounds in the A-League for a little bit now. We're probably the last side  to take a game out into the 'burbs

Palmy.

Fuck this stupid game

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about 11 years ago

Wasn't a Dunedin game a "regional round" fixture?

You know we belong together...

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about 11 years ago

Wonder if the project team have remembered there are big plastic dugouts to go on that far side blocking the views from a few of those yellow seats...

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about 11 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Wonder if the project team have remembered there are big plastic dugouts to go on that far side blocking the views from a few of those yellow seats...

Might be back to the plastic chairs

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about 11 years ago

Isnt palmy more Charity than regional. Lol I love this city

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Considering Palmy and especially Dunedin arent even part of wellington - im going to say no.

A true regional fixture would be playing in the Hutt, Porirua park, somewhere in Kapiti or Masterton (no further away than this), or perhaps an alternate wellington ground away from the central city. That was the point i was trying to make. 

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about 11 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

Considering Palmy and especially Dunedin arent even part of wellington - im going to say no.

A true regional fixture would be playing in the Hutt, Porirua park, somewhere in Kapiti or Masterton (no further away than this), or perhaps an alternate wellington ground away from the central city. That was the point i was trying to make. 

Na. The Nix consider NZ to be their support catchment area. They play those games away for the same reason the aussie clubs play their regional games. I only said Palmy because it's kind of down the road and its a sharkhouse ground

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about 11 years ago

I thought the wind turbine was classy.

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about 11 years ago

Can confirm the pitch vandalism was an attempted roundup C&Bs

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about 11 years ago

TopLeft07 wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

Considering Palmy and especially Dunedin arent even part of wellington - im going to say no.

A true regional fixture would be playing in the Hutt, Porirua park, somewhere in Kapiti or Masterton (no further away than this), or perhaps an alternate wellington ground away from the central city. That was the point i was trying to make. 

Na. The Nix consider NZ to be their support catchment area. They play those games away for the same reason the aussie clubs play their regional games. I only said Palmy because it's kind of down the road and its a sharkhouse ground

Yes and no. It's obvious we're the countries only club in the league with nationwide support, but at the same time if it's not profitable Welnix aren't going to do it. They even told Auckland last time 'turn up or miss out'. That tells me it's a money making venture more than anything else. The fact we're playing at the Hurt Wreck confirms this (Welnix could've taken 3 games around the country for the out of town fans but haven't).

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about 11 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

Considering Palmy and especially Dunedin arent even part of wellington - im going to say no.

A true regional fixture would be playing in the Hutt, Porirua park, somewhere in Kapiti or Masterton (no further away than this), or perhaps an alternate wellington ground away from the central city. That was the point i was trying to make. 

Na. The Nix consider NZ to be their support catchment area. They play those games away for the same reason the aussie clubs play their regional games. I only said Palmy because it's kind of down the road and its a sharkhouse ground

Yes and no. It's obvious we're the countries only club in the league with nationwide support, but at the same time if it's not profitable Welnix aren't going to do it. They even told Auckland last time 'turn up or miss out'. That tells me it's a money making venture more than anything else. The fact we're playing at the Hurt Wreck confirms this (Welnix could've taken 3 games around the country for the out of town fans but haven't).

They couldn't take the game out of town for those 3 games because of the Cricket World Cup - the same reason why the games aren't at the stadium in the first place.

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about 11 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

Considering Palmy and especially Dunedin arent even part of wellington - im going to say no.

A true regional fixture would be playing in the Hutt, Porirua park, somewhere in Kapiti or Masterton (no further away than this), or perhaps an alternate wellington ground away from the central city. That was the point i was trying to make. 

Na. The Nix consider NZ to be their support catchment area. They play those games away for the same reason the aussie clubs play their regional games. I only said Palmy because it's kind of down the road and its a sharkhouse ground

Yes and no. It's obvious we're the countries only club in the league with nationwide support, but at the same time if it's not profitable Welnix aren't going to do it. They even told Auckland last time 'turn up or miss out'. That tells me it's a money making venture more than anything else. The fact we're playing at the Hurt Wreck confirms this (Welnix could've taken 3 games around the country for the out of town fans but haven't).

not wanting to flog a dead horse here but haven't they told everyone "turn up or miss out" at some point? Its bordering on cliché

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about 11 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

Considering Palmy and especially Dunedin arent even part of wellington - im going to say no.

A true regional fixture would be playing in the Hutt, Porirua park, somewhere in Kapiti or Masterton (no further away than this), or perhaps an alternate wellington ground away from the central city. That was the point i was trying to make. 

Na. The Nix consider NZ to be their support catchment area. They play those games away for the same reason the aussie clubs play their regional games. I only said Palmy because it's kind of down the road and its a sharkhouse ground

Yes and no. It's obvious we're the countries only club in the league with nationwide support, but at the same time if it's not profitable Welnix aren't going to do it. They even told Auckland last time 'turn up or miss out'. That tells me it's a money making venture more than anything else. The fact we're playing at the Hurt Wreck confirms this (Welnix could've taken 3 games around the country for the out of town fans but haven't).

They couldn't take the game out of town for those 3 games because of the Cricket World Cup - the same reason why the games aren't at the stadium in the first place.

Not entirely true - that only rules out multiuse grounds. Hamilton, Tauranga, New Plymouth, Dunedin, Christchurch, and Auckland (and Palmy!) all have grounds that aren't being used for the cricket that could accommodate the Nix

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about 11 years ago

TopLeft07 wrote:

Can confirm the pitch vandalism was an attempted roundup C&Bs

Hope they catch the prick responsible!

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about 11 years ago

Penrith last week wasn't that great to look at...

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 11 years ago

TopLeft07 wrote:

Can confirm the pitch vandalism was an attempted roundup C&Bs

As a matter of interest, do you just spray over it with green paint? 

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 11 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

Considering Palmy and especially Dunedin arent even part of wellington - im going to say no.

A true regional fixture would be playing in the Hutt, Porirua park, somewhere in Kapiti or Masterton (no further away than this), or perhaps an alternate wellington ground away from the central city. That was the point i was trying to make. 

Na. The Nix consider NZ to be their support catchment area. They play those games away for the same reason the aussie clubs play their regional games. I only said Palmy because it's kind of down the road and its a sharkhouse ground

Yes and no. It's obvious we're the countries only club in the league with nationwide support, but at the same time if it's not profitable Welnix aren't going to do it. They even told Auckland last time 'turn up or miss out'. That tells me it's a money making venture more than anything else. The fact we're playing at the Hurt Wreck confirms this (Welnix could've taken 3 games around the country for the out of town fans but haven't).

They couldn't take the game out of town for those 3 games because of the Cricket World Cup - the same reason why the games aren't at the stadium in the first place.

Not entirely true - that only rules out multiuse grounds. Hamilton, Tauranga, New Plymouth, Dunedin, Christchurch, and Auckland (and Palmy!) all have grounds that aren't being used for the cricket that could accommodate the Nix

Was going to say this but you beat me to it. Plenty of established stadia around the country we could've gone to.

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about 11 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

Considering Palmy and especially Dunedin arent even part of wellington - im going to say no.

A true regional fixture would be playing in the Hutt, Porirua park, somewhere in Kapiti or Masterton (no further away than this), or perhaps an alternate wellington ground away from the central city. That was the point i was trying to make. 

Na. The Nix consider NZ to be their support catchment area. They play those games away for the same reason the aussie clubs play their regional games. I only said Palmy because it's kind of down the road and its a sharkhouse ground

Yes and no. It's obvious we're the countries only club in the league with nationwide support, but at the same time if it's not profitable Welnix aren't going to do it. They even told Auckland last time 'turn up or miss out'. That tells me it's a money making venture more than anything else. The fact we're playing at the Hurt Wreck confirms this (Welnix could've taken 3 games around the country for the out of town fans but haven't).

They couldn't take the game out of town for those 3 games because of the Cricket World Cup - the same reason why the games aren't at the stadium in the first place.

Not entirely true - that only rules out multiuse grounds. Hamilton, Tauranga, New Plymouth, Dunedin, Christchurch, and Auckland (and Palmy!) all have grounds that aren't being used for the cricket that could accommodate the Nix

Was going to say this but you beat me to it. Plenty of established stadia around the country we could've gone to.

Some people have short memories. Remember the sharkstorm last season when a few games were taken out of Wellington? 

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 11 years ago

Both Hamiton and Christchurch are unavailable. Rugby and concerts IIRC

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about 11 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

Considering Palmy and especially Dunedin arent even part of wellington - im going to say no.

A true regional fixture would be playing in the Hutt, Porirua park, somewhere in Kapiti or Masterton (no further away than this), or perhaps an alternate wellington ground away from the central city. That was the point i was trying to make. 

Na. The Nix consider NZ to be their support catchment area. They play those games away for the same reason the aussie clubs play their regional games. I only said Palmy because it's kind of down the road and its a sharkhouse ground

Yes and no. It's obvious we're the countries only club in the league with nationwide support, but at the same time if it's not profitable Welnix aren't going to do it. They even told Auckland last time 'turn up or miss out'. That tells me it's a money making venture more than anything else. The fact we're playing at the Hurt Wreck confirms this (Welnix could've taken 3 games around the country for the out of town fans but haven't).

They couldn't take the game out of town for those 3 games because of the Cricket World Cup - the same reason why the games aren't at the stadium in the first place.

Not entirely true - that only rules out multiuse grounds. Hamilton, Tauranga, New Plymouth, Dunedin, Christchurch, and Auckland (and Palmy!) all have grounds that aren't being used for the cricket that could accommodate the Nix

Was going to say this but you beat me to it. Plenty of established stadia around the country we could've gone to.

Some people have short memories. Remember the sharkstorm last season when a few games were taken out of Wellington? 

I'm stoked games aren't being played in other cities. But I was just saying that the "there's no available grounds" excuse isn't the sole reason for it.

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about 11 years ago

Well, it is really. There are no  realistic available grounds for all three games because of rugby basically (Hamilton, North Harbour were both serious options). So if that means you have to come up with a creative solution for at least one game, you might as well give it a better chance to be worthwhile by sticking all 3 games there.

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about 11 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

I thought the wind turbine was classy.

Needed more chicken wire!

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about 11 years ago

Not entirely true - that only rules out multiuse grounds. Hamilton, Tauranga, New Plymouth, Dunedin, Christchurch, and Auckland (and Palmy!) all have grounds that aren't being used for the cricket that could accommodate the Nix

Auckland - already been there once this season and a game at Mt Smart/NHS would get lower crowd

Dunedin - two A-League games have drawn crowds of 4,000 and 3,000. Guaranteed loss.

Hamilton - Nix wanted to play a game here but got kicked out by rugby.

Christchurch - concert

Once you are down to less than three options for away games and are going to have to do Hutt Rec, the only way to make it financially viable to is to play at least two games there, as the cost of building the temp stadium is too high to build for just one match. 

Now that it's built, the cost of leaving it up for the third and final game is minimal when compared to risking a game in New Plymouth or Taranaki, especially given that their local councils and FFA are highly unlikely to underwrite the costs of the match (like has happened in Napier/Christchurch/Dunedin). 

It would be a lie to say that the decision to not take matches around the country and play them at the Hutt Rec instead wasn't at all related to money, but the CWC and the unavailability of many of the venues that could have hosted is the main reason behind the venture. 


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about 11 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Not entirely true - that only rules out multiuse grounds. Hamilton, Tauranga, New Plymouth, Dunedin, Christchurch, and Auckland (and Palmy!) all have grounds that aren't being used for the cricket that could accommodate the Nix

Auckland - already been there once this season and a game at Mt Smart/NHS would get lower crowd

Dunedin - two A-League games have drawn crowds of 4,000 and 3,000. Guaranteed loss.

Hamilton - Nix wanted to play a game here but got kicked out by rugby.

Christchurch - concert

Once you are down to less than three options for away games and are going to have to do Hutt Rec, the only way to make it financially viable to is to play at least two games there, as the cost of building the temp stadium is too high to build for just one match. 

Now that it's built, the cost of leaving it up for the third and final game is minimal when compared to risking a game in New Plymouth or Taranaki, especially given that their local councils and FFA are highly unlikely to underwrite the costs of the match (like has happened in Napier/Christchurch/Dunedin). 

It would be a lie to say that the decision to not take matches around the country and play them at the Hutt Rec instead wasn't at all related to money, but the CWC and the unavailability of many of the venues that could have hosted is the main reason behind the venture. 

cooks gardens in wanganui just about always available after all we are just an outer suburb of wellington,

i am only joking before anyone has a meltdown i do not agree with home away games but pretty sure we could beat the dunedin crowds.

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about 11 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Not entirely true - that only rules out multiuse grounds. Hamilton, Tauranga, New Plymouth, Dunedin, Christchurch, and Auckland (and Palmy!) all have grounds that aren't being used for the cricket that could accommodate the Nix

Auckland - already been there once this season and a game at Mt Smart/NHS would get lower crowd

Dunedin - two A-League games have drawn crowds of 4,000 and 3,000. Guaranteed loss.

Hamilton - Nix wanted to play a game here but got kicked out by rugby.

Christchurch - concert

Once you are down to less than three options for away games and are going to have to do Hutt Rec, the only way to make it financially viable to is to play at least two games there, as the cost of building the temp stadium is too high to build for just one match. 

Now that it's built, the cost of leaving it up for the third and final game is minimal when compared to risking a game in New Plymouth or Taranaki, especially given that their local councils and FFA are highly unlikely to underwrite the costs of the match (like has happened in Napier/Christchurch/Dunedin). 

It would be a lie to say that the decision to not take matches around the country and play them at the Hutt Rec instead wasn't at all related to money, but the CWC and the unavailability of many of the venues that could have hosted is the main reason behind the venture. 

Okay, I think we're arguing the same point here - there's more to the decision than just not having any other venue options at all. Saying that we've already played in Auckland so we couldn't play again is a bit of a red herring - surely the decision to play in Auckland late last year was made at the same time as the decision to build the temp ground at the Hutt Rec?

I think it's a great call by Welnix to give this a try and that it's a good test run on the viability of a permanent ground in the Hutt, and it means we don't have months without a game in Wellington like we had at the start of last season. Hopefully it goes off!

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As expected we won't be able to make it as it's bit too soon for my other half to be able to sit there comfortably following surgery on Wednesday. With her recovering and it also being Valentine's Day it's probably a bit off for me to leave her at home while I go so will offer the tickets around friends and if no takers today I'll offer them up here. We were originally going to be missing this one anyway as we were supposed to be out of town this weekend but that had to be cancelled. Should be ok for next weekend.

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about 11 years ago

ajc28 wrote:

As expected we won't be able to make it as it's bit too soon for my other half to be able to sit there comfortably following surgery on Wednesday. With her recovering and it also being Valentine's Day it's probably a bit off for me to leave her at home while I go so will offer the tickets around friends and if no takers today I'll offer them up here. We were originally going to be missing this one anyway as we were supposed to be out of town this weekend but that had to be cancelled. Should be ok for next weekend.

Where in the ground are the tickets for?


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about 11 years ago

Silver bay J

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