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In The Zone - The End

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about 13 years ago

I think this is the only time that free booze will be described as "difficult circumstances".


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

 46 a little delayed.  Needs more editing from our producer as it was recorded in difficult circumstances.

Could be a cracker once it's up though.

Yeah probably Thrusday night.

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about 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

 46 a little delayed.  Needs more editing from our producer as it was recorded in difficult circumstances.

Could be a cracker once it's up though.


Or it could be the same dross only drunker.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

We put two cock-ups in to check if you were listening.

Well spotted.

Listened to #45 a bit late, but on the point of Sanchez playing deeper, IIRC it was away against Victory  (Manny suspended for elbow against Roar and Boyd red card against Roar also saw Totori get his only 90 so far) where we had one of our better first 45min away against Victory ever.
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about 13 years ago

Sort it out, I've been waiting all week, can't hold off another day! (unless you're trying to get this major announcement in there)

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about 13 years ago

Patience is a virtue. And honestly, cut 2B some slack, this one is one helluva job to edit.


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about 13 years ago

 LOL how long would the unedited version be ?? :-)

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about 13 years ago

Don't bother. This podcast will be redundant after 9am tomorrow.

Unless, the news is actually in the Podcast, in which case spill the beans now you prick teasing bunch of mofos.


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about 13 years ago

 Tomorrow after work. Unfortunately coaching got in the way tonight..

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about 13 years ago

Draft is fairly amusing. Drinking games and us shouting at each other. Some cougar gags and entertaining cameos from Greenie, Patrick and New Cakes Nik.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 13 years ago

In The Zone V46 is live at yellowfever.podomatic.com & Itunes bit.ly/YFZone.

Live from the Backbencher, Fever's spiritual home, the pod drowns their sorrows after witnessing the Phoenix capitulate against the Mariners, and discuss the merits of signing Corey Gameiro. Internationally, Nigeria are crowed champions of Africa, CONCACAF World Cup qualification gets underway, and there are plenty of Kiwis in action overseas. While locally Team Wellington fall to Auckland City again.

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about 13 years ago

Best podcast yet. 


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 13 years ago

 Great podcast

Smithy right on to it with Corey starting

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Hilarious listening to all the angst pre-Hernandez announcement.

I'd be interested to know if any of the poddy line up would now change their view on Herbert going (or at least move back into the 'don't know' camp) based on the massive rabbit he pulled out of the hat today.

There's still got a long way to go but Hernandez is clearly Ricki's recruitment - is it enough to get him at least a stay of execution?


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about 13 years ago


"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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about 13 years ago · edited about 13 years ago · History

terminator_x wrote:

Hilarious listening to all the angst pre-Hernandez announcement.

I'd be interested to know if any of the poddy line up would now change their view on Herbert going (or at least move back into the 'don't know' camp) based on the massive rabbit he pulled out of the hat today.

There's still got a long way to go but Hernandez is clearly Ricki's recruitment - is it enough to get him at least a stay of execution?


For me, some of the Ricki angst remains. Most of the Gamiero angst has disappeared from me


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 13 years ago

credit when due, but unchanged. We are in a rut and need a (harlem) shake. At least the signing will give some hope to the current crop about next season and they may lift their game on the back of being a happier camper.

Founder

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about 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

Hilarious listening to all the angst pre-Hernandez announcement.

I'd be interested to know if any of the poddy line up would now change their view on Herbert going (or at least move back into the 'don't know' camp) based on the massive rabbit he pulled out of the hat today.

There's still got a long way to go but Hernandez is clearly Ricki's recruitment - is it enough to get him at least a stay of execution?



Interested to know why you give Ricki so much credit for this signing?  It's not as if he's identified a player out of nowhere - it's obviously great that he's been able to convince him to come, and all credit for that but isn't this one all about Welnix splashing the cash?  Like if Gameiro is good, then that to me is a massive tick for Ricki, not Welnix

Normo's coming home

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about 13 years ago · edited about 13 years ago · History

Feverish wrote:

credit when due, but unchanged. We are in a rut and need a (harlem) shake. At least the signing will give some hope to the current crop about next season and they may lift their game on the back of being a happier camper.


He's going to help for sure, but also may make us more attractive for another coach coming in!

Normo's coming home

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about 13 years ago

 From Sky News - re Pistorius shooting...

"The highest gun death rate in the world is in Honduras with 68 deaths per 100,000. In the USA, the figure stands at 2.97 deaths, while in the UK it is 0.1."

Lads on tour, Honduras, oh yeeeeeaaaaahhh.

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about 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

Hilarious listening to all the angst pre-Hernandez announcement.

I'd be interested to know if any of the poddy line up would now change their view on Herbert going (or at least move back into the 'don't know' camp) based on the massive rabbit he pulled out of the hat today.

There's still got a long way to go but Hernandez is clearly Ricki's recruitment - is it enough to get him at least a stay of execution?


No. For me this is not about Ricki personally really - just the fact that the club's reached the point where significant changes need to be made in order to move forward. The reality is, in a salary capped league, it's easier to replace the coach than to have wholesale squad changes, which is what we also need.

One signing is not suddenly going to turn us back into contenders, especially considering the amount of dead wood we'll have to carry in the squad for the next season or two (and some of that dead wood would be on quite high salaries I would imagine).

As for the Gamiero signing, my angst is even more heightened, as the move is basically completely incomprehensible to me, especially now that he's starting in the Sunday game.

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about 13 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

As for the Gamiero signing, my angst is even more heightened, as the move is basically completely incomprehensible to me, especially now that he's starting in the Sunday game.


It's pretty fucking crazy that some random 19 year old aussie who has basically never started a senior match is starting ahead of our big off season recruit, a former international.

Ricki makes those decisions - that has to reflect on him doesn't it?

Normo's coming home

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about 13 years ago

Can we at least see Gameiro play first before we toss the baby out with the bath water? (And to counter your argument - Fenton's debut)

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 13 years ago

Beside the fact that in his senior career he's shown nothing to suggest he could be a successful player in the A-league (unlike Fenton, who was a star at ASB Premiership level, and impressed enough at VPL level to be on Melbourne Heart's radar), what's the point of bringing a loanee of that calibre on a 3-month deal, when we are committed to 5 other players playing in or around that same position, for at least one more season?

Just makes absolutely no sense to me.

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about 13 years ago

3 month loan deal with the possibilituy of a longer term?? who knows? plus there maybe some agreement between the clubs for ongoing loans both ways.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 13 years ago

james dean wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

As for the Gamiero signing, my angst is even more heightened, as the move is basically completely incomprehensible to me, especially now that he's starting in the Sunday game.


It's pretty fucking crazy that some random 19 year old aussie who has basically never started a senior match is starting ahead of our big off season recruit, a former international.

Ricki makes those decisions - that has to reflect on him doesn't it?
Has it been announced that Huysegems isn't playing? Genuine question, I may have missed a tweet from Piney about it. I would expect it would be an Ifill-Gamiero-Huysegems front three. Even then, you point still stands, why is some random 19 year old aussie who has basically never started a senior match is starting ahead of Fenton, one of our 20 year olds Kiwi boys that has been developed by the academy?

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Hard News wrote:

 Tweets yesterday said the front line was likely to be Ifill, Fenton, Gamiero in some order.

Thanks, I did miss it then.

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james dean wrote:

terminator_x wrote:

Hilarious listening to all the angst pre-Hernandez announcement.

I'd be interested to know if any of the poddy line up would now change their view on Herbert going (or at least move back into the 'don't know' camp) based on the massive rabbit he pulled out of the hat today.

There's still got a long way to go but Hernandez is clearly Ricki's recruitment - is it enough to get him at least a stay of execution?



Interested to know why you give Ricki so much credit for this signing?  It's not as if he's identified a player out of nowhere - it's obviously great that he's been able to convince him to come, and all credit for that but isn't this one all about Welnix splashing the cash?  Like if Gameiro is good, then that to me is a massive tick for Ricki, not Welnix


Interested to know why you don't want to give him credit. "Poor recruitment" has been one of the biggest sticks we've all used to bash Ricki with so it seems a little hypocritical to not give him the credit for this.

Hernandez' salary will be within the salary cap so, no, this is not all about Welnix splashing the cash.

Oddly, I will probably give Ricki less credit if Gamiero works out because that one is clearly just an agent hawking him around the A-League on behalf of Fulham. Ricki probably didn't do much more than pick up the phone.


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about 13 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

Beside the fact that in his senior career he's shown nothing to suggest he could be a successful player in the A-league (unlike Fenton, who was a star at ASB Premiership level, and impressed enough at VPL level to be on Melbourne Heart's radar), what's the point of bringing a loanee of that calibre on a 3-month deal, when we are committed to 5 other players playing in or around that same position, for at least one more season?

Just makes absolutely no sense to me.

Gameiro is on the radar of an EPL side and is an AU u20 rep. Much the same in comparison... Fenton was a very good player in the ASB league but would not have called him a star. Henry and Cheriton did more for your lads last year than Fenton (thats not to say Fenton is crap but he was not a 'star')

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 13 years ago

theprof wrote:

3 month loan deal with the possibilituy of a longer term?? who knows? plus there maybe some agreement between the clubs for ongoing loans both ways.


Seriously? You think Fulham are interested in some of our players on loan? 

Here is my reading of the situation. 

Gameiro jumped to England on the back of his Aussie youth performances. He didn't impress. They couldn't find a second English club to take him on loan, so he started looking here because he's heading home and knows it and might as well get some A League visibility now if he can.

We've grabbed him (after at least one other A League club passed) because he might just turn out to not be shit. And he doesn't cost much. We could get lucky.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of agreement that he would start if he came. He needs to be seen and wouldn't want to come all the way down here to ride the pine.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 13 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

Beside the fact that in his senior career he's shown nothing to suggest he could be a successful player in the A-league (unlike Fenton, who was a star at ASB Premiership level, and impressed enough at VPL level to be on Melbourne Heart's radar), what's the point of bringing a loanee of that calibre on a 3-month deal, when we are committed to 5 other players playing in or around that same position, for at least one more season?

Just makes absolutely no sense to me.

Gameiro is on the radar of an EPL side and is an AU u20 rep. Much the same in comparison... Fenton was a very good player in the ASB league but would not have called him a star. Henry and Cheriton did more for your lads last year than Fenton (thats not to say Fenton is crap but he was not a 'star')

On the radar of an EPL club? He played zero games for Fulham, 8 games for FC Eindhoven, and then dropped all the way down to the Conference South to play in Woking for Hayes and Yeading.

This kid is of a similar pedigree to Fenton. He played national age group football for his country, and did okay, and at rural club level in Aussie he rose up the ranks quite young. Just like Louis. Similar to say, Pavs.

Since then, nothing about his story is very impressive. But he's young, and if he is enthusiastic he might have a great impact with us. I have my fingers crossed.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Smithy wrote:

theprof wrote:

3 month loan deal with the possibilituy of a longer term?? who knows? plus there maybe some agreement between the clubs for ongoing loans both ways.


Seriously? You think Fulham are interested in some of our players on loan? 
Here is my reading of the situation. 
Gameiro jumped to England on the back of his Aussie youth performances. He didn't impress. They couldn't find a second English club to take him on loan, so he started looking here because he's heading home and knows it and might as well get some A League visibility now if he can.
We've grabbed him (after at least one other A League club passed) because he might just turn out to not be shit. And he doesn't cost much. We could get lucky.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of agreement that he would start if he came. He needs to be seen and wouldn't want to come all the way down here to ride the pine.
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it was an option that crossed my mind, it was a positive moment where I saw a possible mutual benefit, more for us than Fulham

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 13 years ago

Smithy wrote:

theprof wrote:

3 month loan deal with the possibilituy of a longer term?? who knows? plus there maybe some agreement between the clubs for ongoing loans both ways.


Seriously? You think Fulham are interested in some of our players on loan? 

Here is my reading of the situation. 

Gameiro jumped to England on the back of his Aussie youth performances. He didn't impress. They couldn't find a second English club to take him on loan, so he started looking here because he's heading home and knows it and might as well get some A League visibility now if he can.

We've grabbed him (after at least one other A League club passed) because he might just turn out to not be shit. And he doesn't cost much. We could get lucky.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of agreement that he would start if he came. He needs to be seen and wouldn't want to come all the way down here to ride the pine.


I think that's probably spot on.

Of course, if he does well over the next few games it becomes harder for us to keep him. I wonder if we negotiated any kind of first refusal (for the A-League at least) in exchange for some game time?


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about 13 years ago

Chris James would fit perfectly into our new total football passing game.

#phoenixannouncement


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about 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

james dean wrote:

terminator_x wrote:

Hilarious listening to all the angst pre-Hernandez announcement.

I'd be interested to know if any of the poddy line up would now change their view on Herbert going (or at least move back into the 'don't know' camp) based on the massive rabbit he pulled out of the hat today.

There's still got a long way to go but Hernandez is clearly Ricki's recruitment - is it enough to get him at least a stay of execution?



Interested to know why you give Ricki so much credit for this signing?  It's not as if he's identified a player out of nowhere - it's obviously great that he's been able to convince him to come, and all credit for that but isn't this one all about Welnix splashing the cash?  Like if Gameiro is good, then that to me is a massive tick for Ricki, not Welnix


Interested to know why you don't want to give him credit. "Poor recruitment" has been one of the biggest sticks we've all used to bash Ricki with so it seems a little hypocritical to not give him the credit for this.

Hernandez' salary will be within the salary cap so, no, this is not all about Welnix splashing the cash.

Oddly, I will probably give Ricki less credit if Gamiero works out because that one is clearly just an agent hawking him around the A-League on behalf of Fulham. Ricki probably didn't do much more than pick up the phone.

Currently he fits in next seasons salary cap because we have a lot of people coming off contract, I would assume that those wanting to re-sign with the 'Nix might not be happy with what's being offered.
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Smithy wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

Beside the fact that in his senior career he's shown nothing to suggest he could be a successful player in the A-league (unlike Fenton, who was a star at ASB Premiership level, and impressed enough at VPL level to be on Melbourne Heart's radar), what's the point of bringing a loanee of that calibre on a 3-month deal, when we are committed to 5 other players playing in or around that same position, for at least one more season?

Just makes absolutely no sense to me.

Gameiro is on the radar of an EPL side and is an AU u20 rep. Much the same in comparison... Fenton was a very good player in the ASB league but would not have called him a star. Henry and Cheriton did more for your lads last year than Fenton (thats not to say Fenton is crap but he was not a 'star')

On the radar of an EPL club? He played zero games for Fulham, 8 games for FC Eindhoven, and then dropped all the way down to the Conference South to play in Woking for Hayes and Yeading.

This kid is of a similar pedigree to Fenton. He played national age group football for his country, and did okay, and at rural club level in Aussie he rose up the ranks quite young. Just like Louis. Similar to say, Pavs.

Since then, nothing about his story is very impressive. But he's young, and if he is enthusiastic he might have a great impact with us. I have my fingers crossed.

Thats the point I was kinda making. His pedigree is similar to Fentons and look how that young lad turn out (remember his debut?) I'm not having a crack at your boy at all Smithy. Its more 'why are we rubbishing a player who has yet to do anything'. He could well be the business or the a pile of shit. We do not know. Let the kid play then either build him up or tear him down FFS

Grumpy old bastard alert

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