No matter what happens this weekend, it'll still be our worst start to the season ever. Sigh.
Three for me, and two for them.
No matter what happens this weekend, it'll still be our worst start to the season ever. Sigh.
Three for me, and two for them.
No matter what happens this weekend, it'll still be our worst start to the season ever. Sigh.
When does it stop being the start though?
Never Buffy!!
I believe last season I might have started referring to the 'worst season ever' rather than 'worst start to the season ever' at about Round 20 but the bottom line is this sub-thread-within-a-thread was started by me and is my intellectual property and I will do whatever I want with it and Dave Burgess can just ggf and no I'm not telling you who I am.

Maybe thats why Moss keeps hoofing the ball up to row Z height, so those in the corporate boxes get a better view.
No matter what happens this weekend, it'll still be our worst start to the season ever. Sigh.
When does it stop being the start though?
Never Buffy!!
I believe last season I might have started referring to the 'worst season ever' rather than 'worst start to the season ever' at about Round 20 but the bottom line is this sub-thread-within-a-thread was started by me and is my intellectual property and I will do whatever I want with it and Dave Burgess can just ggf and no I'm not telling you who I am.
Grumpy old bastard alert
07/08 - DLLWDWL - 8pts - LLLWLDDLWDWLLL - 20pts (21 games)
08/09 - DLLDLWD - 6pts - WLLWWWLDWLWLDL - 26pts (21 games)
09/10 - LWDLDDD - 7pts - DDDWLWDWLDLDWWWLLWWW - 40 pts (27 games)
10/11 - DWLLWDL - 8pts - WLDLLWLLWDLWLWDWLWLWWLW - 41 pts (30 games)
11/12 - DWLLLDD - 6pts - WLWWLWLWLWWWWLLWWDLL - 40 pts (27 games)
12/13 - WDDLLLW - 8pts - DWLLDWLLLLDWLLDLWLWL - 27 pts (27 games)
13/14 - LDDLDLD - 4pts
"We're so sh!t our fans don't watch us"
"Phoenix till they lose"
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07/08 - DLLWDWLL - 8pts - LLWLDDLWDWLLL - 20pts (21 games)
08/09 - DLLDLWDW - 9pts - LLWWWLDWLWLDL - 26pts (21 games)
09/10 - LWDLDDDD - 8pts - DDWLWDWLDLDWWWLLWWW - 40 pts (27 games)
10/11 - DWLLWDLW - 11pts - LDLLWLLWDLWLWDWLWLWWLW - 41 pts (30 games)
11/12 - DWLLLDDW - 9pts - LWWLWLWLWWWWLLWWDLL - 40 pts (27 games)
12/13 - WDDLLLWD - 9pts - WLLDWLLLLDWLLDLWLWL - 27 pts (27 games)
13/14 - LDDLDLDL - 4pts
This is by far our worst start to the season ever. We could easily go the first ten games without a win here.
You can crack on all you like about how it's a transition year and Ernie can only do so much with the players he inherited blah blah blah but even Rick Herbert managed to coax a win or two out of this rabble.
Jesus wept, just win a fucking game already.

Points accumulation compared to previous seasons...

We are way off the pace.

Here's a cold, hard dose of reality...
In the previous three 27-game seasons it has required at least 32 points and an average of 34 points to make the play-offs (and in 11/12 it was actually 37 points).
So from where we are now we need another 30 points (from 19 games) in order have the average number of points required to make the play-offs in previous seasons.
Now the bad news. In the last 4 seasons (i.e. the only 4 seasons in the history of the A-League which have been at least 27 games) between Round 9 and Round 27 the most points we have ever collected is 32 (in 09/10). Add that to the number of points we have already (4) and we might just squeeze into the play-offs with 36 points. The average amount of points we have collected between Round 9 and Round 27 is 26. Add that to the points we already have and we'll have 30 points and won't make the play-offs.
What this means is that despite having had our worst start to a season ever for the rest of the season we will have to play at least as well as we ever have (if not better) just to make the play-offs. Can anybody see where that transformation is going to come from?
#dontstopbelievin

Here's a cold, hard dose of reality...
In the previous three 27-game seasons it has required at least 32 points and an average of 34 points to make the play-offs (and in 11/12 it was actually 37 points).
So from where we are now we need another 30 points (from 19 games) in order have the average number of points required to make the play-offs in previous seasons.
Now the bad news. In the last 4 seasons (i.e. the only 4 seasons in the history of the A-League which have been at least 27 games) between Round 9 and Round 27 the most points we have ever collected is 32 (in 09/10). Add that to the number of points we have already (4) and we might just squeeze into the play-offs with 36 points. The average amount of points we have collected between Round 9 and Round 27 is 26. Add that to the points we already have and we'll have 30 points and won't make the play-offs.
What this means is that despite having had our worst start to a season ever for the rest of the season we will have to play at least as well as we ever have (if not better) just to make the play-offs. Can anybody see where that transformation is going to come from?
#dontstopbelievin
all of the above ^ it's going to be a long hard off season....
Queenslander 3x a year.
Points accumulation compared to previous seasons...

We are way off the pace.
Another interesting thing about this graph is that at this time last season we were actually going OK, at least compared to previous Nix seasons. And by week 9 last season was actually our best ever start - 3 wins, 3 draws and 3 losses, 12 pts from the first 9 games.
The season really fell apart with a 4 game losing streak between Rounds 14 and 17, which we never recovered from.
Jeez, we were absolutely flying in 11/12 too. Just a couple of 2-game losing streaks in the last 10 games stopped us finishing much higher.

Bloody statistics, you can twist them to prove whatever you want. Can someone please twist them the other way??
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
Bloody statistics, you can twist them to prove whatever you want. Can someone please twist them the other way??
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Bloody statistics, you can twist them to prove whatever you want. Can someone please twist them the other way??
Ernie should stop saying we are going to make the playoffs. It's obviously not going to happen.
Gareth should come in and tell us that we are pathetic and know nothing about football.
"Just wait and see" he will say "Its all about the vision"
Grumpy old bastard alert
Bloody statistics, you can twist them to prove whatever you want. Can someone please twist them the other way??
You want someone to twist the stats to say that everything is ticking along fine and there is nothing to worry about? 0 wins out of 8 games makes that pretty damn hard.
07/08 - DLLWDWLLL - 8pts - LWLDDLWDWLLL - 20pts (21 games)
08/09 - DLLDLWDWL - 9pts - LWWWLDWLWLDL - 26pts (21 games)
09/10 - LWDLDDDDD - 9pts - DWLWDWLDLDWWWLLWWW - 40 pts (27 games)
10/11 - DWLLWDLWL - 11pts - DLLWLLWDLWLWDWLWLWWLW - 41 pts (30 games)
11/12 - DWLLLDDWL - 9pts - WWLWLWLWWWWLLWWDLL - 40 pts (27 games)
12/13 - WDDLLLWDW - 12pts - LLDWLLLLDWLLDLWLWL - 27 pts (27 games)
13/14 - LDDLDLDLL - 4pts
So we are now 9 pts outside the play-offs.
Not only that, we need another 30 pts from 18 games to reach a target of 34 pts (which is the average pts required to make the play-offs in a 27 game season). The most pts we have ever got from the last 18 games is 31, the average is 25.
Average pts per game so far this season = 0.44
Average pts per game required from now on = 1.67
#dontstopbelievin

Not only that, we need another 30 pts from 18 games to reach a target of 34 pts (which is the average pts required to make the play-offs in a 27 game season). The most pts we have ever got from the last 18 games is 31, the average is 25.
#dontstopbelievin
Combinations to get to 30 points in 18 games:
W
D
L
10
0
8
9
3
6
8
6
3
7
9
2
6
12
0
"Phoenix till they lose"
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So realistically looking at that, its not really likely.
Grumpy old bastard alert
I reckon the last one is likely. All we need to do is score more goals than the opposition in 6 of our games and score the same amount in 12 of them. How hard can it be?
Three for me, and two for them.
Not only that, we need another 30 pts from 18 games to reach a target of 34 pts (which is the average pts required to make the play-offs in a 27 game season). The most pts we have ever got from the last 18 games is 31, the average is 25.
#dontstopbelievin
Combinations to get to 30 points in 18 games:
| W | D | L |
| 10 | 0 | 8 |
| 9 | 3 | 6 |
| 8 | 6 | 3 |
| 7 | 9 | 2 |
| 6 | 12 | 0 |
Remaining games:
Adelaide - 3 (Home, Away, Home)
Brisbane - 1 (Away)
CCM - 3 (Away, Home, Away)
Heart - 3 (Away, Home, Away)
Victory - 2 (Home, Home)
Jets - 2 (Away, Away)
Glory - 1 (Home)
Sydney - 2 (Home, Away)
WSW - 1 (Away)
Remaining games:
Adelaide - 3 (Home, Away, Home)
Brisbane - 1 (Away)
CCM - 3 (Away, Home, Away)
Heart - 3 (Away, Home, Away)
Victory - 2 (Home, Home)
Jets - 2 (Away, Away)
Glory - 1 (Home)
Sydney - 2 (Home, Away)
WSW - 1 (Away)

"Phoenix till they lose"
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09/10 - LWDLDDDDD - 9pts - DWLWDWLDLDWWWLLWWW - 40 pts (27 games)
13/14 - LDDLDLDLL - 4pts
So we are now 9 pts outside the play-offs.
Not only that, we need another 30 pts from 18 games to reach a target of 34 pts (which is the average pts required to make the play-offs in a 27 game season). The most pts we have ever got from the last 18 games is 31, the average is 25.
#dontstopbelievin
"Phoenix till they lose"
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IBTL
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
07/08 - DLLWDWLLLL - 8pts - WLDDLWDWLLL - 20pts (21 games)
08/09 - DLLDLWDWLL - 9pts - WWWLDWLWLDL - 26pts (21 games)
09/10 - LWDLDDDDDD - 10pts - WLWDWLDLDWWWLLWWW - 40 pts (27 games)
10/11 - DWLLWDLWLD - 12pts - LLWLLWDLWLWDWLWLWWLW - 41 pts (30 games)
11/12 - DWLLLDDWLW - 12pts - WLWLWLWWWWLLWWDLL - 40 pts (27 games)
12/13 - WDDLLLWDWL - 12pts - LDWLLLLDWLLDLWLWL - 27 pts (27 games)
13/14 - LDDLDLDLLL - 4pts
Very sobering to think that at the same stage last season we had 12 pts.
And if we don't beat Sydney at the weekend we will be at least 6pts off our next worse start to the season (11pts after 11 games, 07/08).

But last season was our equal best start ever!
#lHopingforalaterun
Phoenix in 2013 - P24 W3 D6 L15. Wins were at Dunedin, Auckland and Perth.
Roll on 2014!
Quick reschedule Sunday's game to .... Christchurch
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet