Stats can tell you anything you want when you're putting together a headline.
This is the first year I've felt we have put forward a few really good potential future NZ players. They wont have played as many minutes as they are inexperienced, but I saw some future kiwi's promise in some of the players this season.
The likes of Singh and Keegan-Smith have me hopefuly for the future.
Though that is also an unverified fact and a feeling, so take it with less than a grain of salt.
Rob turned down $7 million so he is off to Aus to seek $4 million Got to be true
Fact check:
1. We know for certain that there has been a $7m concrete offer for the club? yes/no
2. The closer to the date that the club might lose its license, the value of the club increases? yes/no
3. One of the club owners has recently publicly stated that he wants to sell the club? yes/no
I think you should look at what Morgan said again, he said he's a reluctant owner and the club is up for sale the same way that every club is up for sale. He clarified that point a couple of times. For the right amount of money every club in the league is for sale, he then highlighted some of the big money deals like Manchester City buying Melbourne Heart and the Chinese consortium buying Adelaide.
What he didn't say is he wants to sell now to move the team to Australia, and in fact all the examples he gave were of foreign owners keeping teams in their home towns.
I have no doubt what he said is true and while it was ill advised it in no way contradicts the stated reasons that Welnix bought the Nix, in fact it backs them up because he said they don't want it to fold because they bought it to stop it from folding.
But McGlinchey was born in the centre circle of Te Whiti Park during the half time break of a Hutt Valley United game
That's an urban legend. The real story is, that's how he was conceived.
I like the bit where people believe the rumours from a tabloid website where an agent hides badly behind a nom de plume ahead of Jason Pine stating clearly that it's not the case.
You know, I want to hear more from the likes of Piney than "its not true" Anyone can say that. I want to hear what he says, and then some reason for me believing him, more than just because it was Piney that said it. How does Piney know its not true? surely he can say why he knows without betraying any trust.
I repeat. Person hiding on a tabloid website vs an experienced and knowledgeable person close to the people involved. You have chosen to believe the least credible source by a mile but then again this is a pattern so I'm not surprised.
its pretty easy to believe that Piney would have the inside running on any nix info given his involvement with the club, plus his journalistic pedigree vs some relatively unknown plyer agent who has a hostory of bowing things out of proportion to get more $$ for said players.
Queenslander 3x a year.
Be interesting to see the stats for Kalazec vs Greenacre.
why?
Because I'll find it interesting.
why?
Because the standout players towards the season were all young kiwis that played under Greenie. Singh, Cacace, Ridenton, and Sail all played significant minutes under Greenie with other players like Rogerson getting time (and scoring goals as well). It would be interesting to see if these observations are backed by fact. Also, I'd hazzard to guess that in the last few games of the season Kiwi's created more chances and scored more goals than non Kiwis.
Thanks for the spreadsheet Matt.
Singh and Cacace both started playing under Kalezic. And Ridenton was a feature.the entire season. Sail is the only one who didn't get time with Kalezic, but that's offset by the fact that Kalezic played Smith a lot at the start of the season.
Just to give some context to this 'kiwi youth revolution' that Greenacre apparently started.
Firstly, that's a hardly revolutionary difference. Especially since the Dura point reflects DK's attempts to get rid of him, while Greenacre didn't have that kind of agenda.
The other thing is that some of the Kiwi minutes were forced on Greenacre - if Velaphi hadn't been injured, Sail wouldn't have got the minutes that he did. It's be interesting to see what the difference in that case would be - I'd guess not much, but I'm not working it out.
It adds 360 mins to Australian total and takes it off the Kiwi if you assume that Velaphi played the four games that Sail ended up having
Thanks Matt, so if I have my calculations right, that brings the difference to about 2%. Hardly worth mentioning, really.
I like your common sense so much more now you have left the mod business
its pretty easy to believe that Piney would have the inside running on any nix info given his involvement with the club, plus his journalistic pedigree vs some relatively unknown plyer agent who has a hostory of bowing things out of proportion to get more $$ for said players.
Rallis's only goal is to boost deals for his clients, he's not anywhere near being a journalist. Everything that "Covert Agent" reports has benefitted one of his clients.
Piney on the other hand, is a presenter and a journalist.
its pretty easy to believe that Piney would have the inside running on any nix info given his involvement with the club, plus his journalistic pedigree vs some relatively unknown plyer agent who has a hostory of bowing things out of proportion to get more $$ for said players.
Rallis's only goal is to boost deals for his clients, he's not anywhere near being a journalist. Everything that "Covert Agent" reports has benefitted one of his clients.
Piney on the other hand, is a presenter and a journalist.
Who cares who it is, just look at their track record.
At the end of the day, I don't give a rats ass if Morrison is selling the club to anyone, or whether or not CA is Rallis, or what he says is right or wrong,but once again we have a group of people in this forum that fail to apply any proper form of reasoning and immediately cite gossip, rumour and innuendo as proof. They might be happy to live their lives in that way but I'd rather be a little more questioning.
Who cares who it is, just look at their track record.
Isn’t that what you’re doing by latching on to this article by an anonymous (Tony Rallis) agent?
Who cares who it is, just look at their track record.
At the end of the day, I don't give a rats ass if Morrison is selling the club to anyone, or whether or not CA is Rallis, or what he says is right or wrong,but once again we have a group of people in this forum that fail to apply any proper form of reasoning and immediately cite gossip, rumour and innuendo as proof. They might be happy to live their lives in that way but I'd rather be a little more questioning.
He's been right on a couple of things but most of what he says is linking players which he represents to clubs other than the ones that he's negotiating with. He's also (as above) missrepresented the qualifications of Ramon.
You have one account which is anonymous, is right on a couple of things, is wrong on many many more, and has a history of exaggerating and making pretty vague claims on one hand, on the other you have a professional journalist who has ties to the club and puts his reputation on the line with every statement because he's not hiding behind some monicre.
At the end of the day, I don't give a rats ass if Morrison is selling the club to anyone, or whether or not CA is Rallis, or what he says is right or wrong,but once again we have a group of people in this forum that fail to apply any proper form of reasoning and immediately cite gossip, rumour and innuendo as proof. They might be happy to live their lives in that way but I'd rather be a little more questioning.
None of the statements in the above part-sentence have any support whatsoever, please provide.
None of the statements in the above part-sentence have any support whatsoever, please provide.
At the end of the day, I don't give a rats ass if Morrison is selling the club to anyone, or whether or not CA is Rallis, or what he says is right or wrong,but once again we have a group of people in this forum that fail to apply any proper form of reasoning and immediately cite gossip, rumour and innuendo as proof. They might be happy to live their lives in that way but I'd rather be a little more questioning.
None of the statements in the above part-sentence have any support whatsoever, please provide.
Again, isn’t that what you’re doing? You read a piece by annonymous agent and immediately believed it.
It’s not like you’re offering up any reasoning why people should believe a rumour by an annonymous agent over a journalist who very closely covers the club and says it’s untrue.
At the end of the day, I don't give a rats ass if Morrison is selling the club to anyone, or whether or not CA is Rallis, or what he says is right or wrong,but once again we have a group of people in this forum that fail to apply any proper form of reasoning and immediately cite gossip, rumour and innuendo as proof. They might be happy to live their lives in that way but I'd rather be a little more questioning.
do your own research
... Is what every half baked conspiracy theorist says when challenged for the basis of their wild assertions
do your own research
... Is what every half baked conspiracy theorist says when challenged for the basis of their wild assertions
Mr Positive
do your own research
... Is what every half baked conspiracy theorist says when challenged for the basis of their wild assertions
do your own research
... Is what every half baked conspiracy theorist says when challenged for the basis of their wild assertions
Mr Positive
None of the statements in the above part-sentence have any support whatsoever, please provide.
Again, isn’t that what you’re doing? You read a piece by annonymous agent and immediately believed it.
It’s not like you’re offering up any reasoning why people should believe a rumour by an annonymous agent over a journalist who very closely covers the club and says it’s untrue.
Journalism can be sycophantic. Those who say too much of the wrong thing, can find themselves on the outside.
As a result, information perceived as being of greater 'risk' to the organization will no longer flow into the public domain.
The safest way to deliver this information, without repercussion, is via anonymity.
Anonymity is not the devil, but it can be, and it relies on trust. A great example of good reporting via anonymity was the Guardian's secret footballer series: https://www.theguardian.com/football/series/the-se...
One further point, a reporter/journalist, no matter what their qualifications or perceived level of integrity, is not a source.
Well, this rumour has been repeated in the Sydney Herald Sun, which is beginning to make me feel uncomfortable
The fact they are stating that there would be a split in home games between the two locations is the only thing that is keeping me from running around the house panicking because literally no one can think that is a good idea that will get support in either location. The concerning thing for me though was the Phoenix 'no comment' comment at the end of the story. It really is something that could have been squashed with a straight no if it wasn't the partial truth at least.
Dome was on the radio the other day saying that there are agendas and also misdirection going on by the FFA. Nothing to indicate that this isn't just more of the same.
I believe him, but that faith is wearing thin..
#FakeNews :(
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