I kind of took it as advertising. Creating a whole new thread with a provocative title telling people to listen to your show.
This.
yeah okay ill agree - but the headline wasnt at all misleading about what daniel said.
if he had posted the link in this thread, and hadnt phrased it as their website exclusive then I guess it wouldnt be advertising?
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And the players mentioned may leave because they want to go back to AU and not stay here in NZ.
I don't think he says anything that's a revelation or we did not know/suspect already.
To stir the pot a bit, he was talking to Lia, Manny and Dura. All of those are on contracts past this season...
But what he actually said was, the players were unhappy (could be at anything, including performance - we didn't hear the question). Then mentioned the owners want a new style and will bring new players in. Some players will be replaced.
If you take the question of it, that has nothing to do with those 3 being unhappy at the owners and leading a player exodus.
Well, that is why I put Dura's interview along side this. One might read it that the players are unhappy with results and blame that on the style of play they are trying to implement, so even though "At training we're still working on it, we're still doing it." and "Ricki's still encouraging us to do it at training" ('it' being a possession based style) they are or are not going to implement it during games and it seems at the players discretion.
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I'd like to add, in that other interview posted, you do not hear them ask the first question. Clearly it is misleading and theyve done this to make it sound like a player exodus at the end of the season because of the owners. They play every other question and they match up. Suspicious much?
Listening to it again, Daniel in no way said the players will leave because of the owners.
Had all of this mornings EPL results spoiled for me while finding this out by the way! So if you're planning on watching those tonight, skip the first minute or so.
Allegedly
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Let's cut Gareth some slack, guys. Stop complaining, He's fronted up and put his money into our club.
Just because he knows bugger all about football but makes broad, sweeping statements about how it should and shouldn't be played is no reason to say nasty things about him
Just because he labels fans as pathetic and unsophisticated, and questions their knowlede of the game, is no reason to say nasty things about him.
Just because he wants results but doesn't appear to want to spend on strengthening the team is no reason to say nasty things abouit him.
Just because the marketing of the club and games seems to be non-existent is no reason to say nasty things about him.
Supporters daring to say less than complimentary things about the man at the top? Disgraceful! Who do they think they are. Ungrateful swines.
I think you have kinda summed it up in a nutshell. To coin a phrase of an album title '5,227,706 Scotsmen Can't Be Wrong!' Its funny how many fans are very much aligned to the thinking above (reading the forum) but we are the ones that have no idea what we are talking about, need to pipe down and just front up every week.
I kinda draw a parallel with Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares. Owners that are losing cash, have not a clue about what is going on in their business and put out rubbish product because they think they know better and generally refuse to acknowledge the issues or listen to feedback from the customers. Then wonder why their business is in the toilet. Does this sound familiar?
Sadly, yes. I posted an article on Facebook recently about my first love Partick Thistle. On the bones of their arse, got a new board of directors and a new Chairman. A group of people who, by their own admission, knew bugger all about football. The new board had a long term plan, the club was leaking money and losing fans, previous board members and chairmen had been villified and even despised by the fans. That sound familiar?
Now, we have a great chance of winning promotion back to the SPL, the Club has forged strong links with the fans and the local community, crowds are up. Things are looking good. It can be done, but the people at the top have to acknowledge their limitations and listen to people who know more about football than they do. No-one is arguing with what Gareth and the other 8 want to achieve, but when he screws up publicly, then he deserves to be criticised for it.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I'd like to add, in that other interview posted, you do not hear them ask the first question. Clearly it is misleading and theyve done this to make it sound like a player exodus at the end of the season because of the owners. They play every other question and they match up. Suspicious much?
Listening to it again, Daniel in no way said the players will leave because of the owners.
Yeah, I don't think the players will be leaving. I'm more interested in hints of senior player power flexing some muscles.
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I'd like to add, in that other interview posted, you do not hear them ask the first question. Clearly it is misleading and theyve done this to make it sound like a player exodus at the end of the season because of the owners. They play every other question and they match up. Suspicious much?
Listening to it again, Daniel in no way said the players will leave because of the owners.
Yeah, I don't think the players will be leaving. I'm more interested in hints of senior player power flexing some muscles.
Grumpy old bastard alert
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was it really an "illegal thread"
i dont think so.
just didnt follow forum rules of putting it in an existing thread...
may be a slight overeaction from you guys
I was over-exaggerating by my 'illegal thread' jibe, but as News pointed out, the forum rules quite clearly state that advertising in the forums is banned.
depends if you class that as advertising. Whats the difference between George Constanza posting loads of links to radio sports link?
Including a very similar interview with Daniel.
Also radiosport advertised it as Daniel saying players will leave at end of season
Also radiosport advertised it as Daniel saying players will leave at end of season
I put those there so peeps can listen to player interviews. I haven't got anything to gain. Sorry if it annoys people.
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was it really an "illegal thread"
i dont think so.
just didnt follow forum rules of putting it in an existing thread...
may be a slight overeaction from you guys
I was over-exaggerating by my 'illegal thread' jibe, but as News pointed out, the forum rules quite clearly state that advertising in the forums is banned.
depends if you class that as advertising. Whats the difference between George Constanza posting loads of links to radio sports link?
Including a very similar interview with Daniel.
Also radiosport advertised it as Daniel saying players will leave at end of season
Also radiosport advertised it as Daniel saying players will leave at end of season
I put those there so peeps can listen to player interviews. I haven't got anything to gain. Sorry if it annoys people.
And I am very thankful for you doing so, otherwise I wouldn't hear any of the interviews.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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it doesnt annoy me at all - i love your work.
was just wondering whats the difference between that and the other guy who posted a link to his site.
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But im over it now
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it doesnt annoy me at all - i love your work.
was just wondering whats the difference between that and the other guy who posted a link to his site.
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But im over it now
George isn't advertising, he's posting links aggregated from a range of sources(no different to the News page) and gains nothing for himself. Devlin Producer was blatantly advertising his site for his own benefit, and only his site, which is banned by the forum rules.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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There's some good stuff in those radio segments, with a range of opinions.
Good to hear Daniel give a big shout out to Yellow Fever, but the rest of it come off like a bit of a whinge to me.
I thought Ian Smith made some good comments at the end of Daniel's interview about Kiwis not really being used to the private ownership model and players and fans needing to remember who's actually paying the wages. Yes, Gareth could have chosen his words more carefully but the change of style is still a good decision and his message about being patient is the right one. As Ian Smith basically said, we don't have a divine right to win the A-League. Teams have their ups and downs and no matter how well you set yourself up (or think you have) shit can go wrong.
Noah Hickey talked a lot of sense too.
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it doesnt annoy me at all - i love your work.
was just wondering whats the difference between that and the other guy who posted a link to his site.
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But im over it now
George isn't advertising, he's posting links aggregated from a range of sources(no different to the News page) and gains nothing for himself. Devlin Producer was blatantly advertising his site for his own benefit, and only his site, which is banned by the forum rules.
yeah but how was devlin producer supposed to post that link without it being advertising?
If george had posted the exact same link and text but in the correct thread, i dont think any of you would have blinked.
If george had posted the exact same link and text but in the correct thread, i dont think any of you would have blinked.
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I thought you were over it?
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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it doesnt annoy me at all - i love your work.
was just wondering whats the difference between that and the other guy who posted a link to his site.
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But im over it now
George isn't advertising, he's posting links aggregated from a range of sources(no different to the News page) and gains nothing for himself. Devlin Producer was blatantly advertising his site for his own benefit, and only his site, which is banned by the forum rules.
yeah but how was devlin producer supposed to post that link without it being advertising?
If george had posted the exact same link and text but in the correct thread, i dont think any of you would have blinked.
If george had posted the exact same link and text but in the correct thread, i dont think any of you would have blinked.
Grumpy old bastard alert
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There's some good stuff in those radio segments, with a range of opinions.
Good to hear Daniel give a big shout out to Yellow Fever, but the rest of it come off like a bit of a whinge to me.
I thought Ian Smith made some good comments at the end of Daniel's interview about Kiwis not really being used to the private ownership model and players and fans needing to remember who's actually paying the wages. Yes, Gareth could have chosen his words more carefully but the change of style is still a good decision and his message about being patient is the right one. As Ian Smith basically said, we don't have a divine right to win the A-League. Teams have their ups and downs and no matter how well you set yourself up (or think you have) shit can go wrong.
Noah Hickey talked a lot of sense too.
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What a fantastic thread! Who would have thought we could get over 5,000 posts over something like this...
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Is it you or is it me?
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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Vader is responsible for 2500 of them
Auckland will rise once more
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Vader is responsible for 2500 of them
Is that an issue? I would think JD has said more than me on this. Stick to being a lawyer...Grumpy old bastard alert
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What a fantastic thread! Who would have thought we could get over 5,000 posts over something like this...
And this isn't even the full thread! The old thread got shut down half way through a Smithy vs John Dow cage fight. See page 1 for the immediate aftermath - still one of my favourite ever forum moments.
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Vader is responsible for 2500 of them
Is that an issue? I would think JD has said more than me on this. Stick to being a lawyer...Auckland will rise once more
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What a fantastic thread! Who would have thought we could get over 5,000 posts over something like this...
And this isn't even the full thread! The old thread got shut down half way through a Smithy vs John Dow cage fight. See page 1 for the immediate aftermath - still one of my favourite ever forum moments.
Thems wuz the dayz!
That original thread would have made the fever pool room.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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What a fantastic thread! Who would have thought we could get over 5,000 posts over something like this...
And this isn't even the full thread! The old thread got shut down half way through a Smithy vs John Dow cage fight. See page 1 for the immediate aftermath - still one of my favourite ever forum moments.
Thems wuz the dayz!
That original thread would have made the fever pool room.
I still haven't gotten over the pain of losing that thread.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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Vader is responsible for 2500 of them
Is that an issue? I would think JD has said more than me on this. Stick to being a lawyer...Grumpy old bastard alert
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What a fantastic thread! Who would have thought we could get over 5,000 posts over something like this...
And this isn't even the full thread! The old thread got shut down half way through a Smithy vs John Dow cage fight. See page 1 for the immediate aftermath - still one of my favourite ever forum moments.
Thems wuz the dayz!
That original thread would have made the fever pool room.
I still haven't gotten over the pain of losing that thread.
Dow was gonna sue us but he got a cushy gig working for Cnr Morrison so he dropped it (may not be true)
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That and the now dead transfer thread. Two best Forum threads EVER
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Mr Feverish, it was your decision, in your capacity asYellow Leader, to delete the earlier thread conversation between Mr. Smith and myself. I was quite enjoying the interaction and had no intention of suing, despite the flagrantly false and inaccurate comments being made. The "Cushy Gig" you refer to was a contract to assist Councillor Morrison establish a set of Artificial Football pitches for Wellington City. We successfully secured the resources and support for 7 to be created. Wakefield Park x 2, Wellington College x 1 having since been built and St Pats College with construction now underway with 3 more to come. I have heard rumours that even yourself have commented favourably on these new football assets. I can assure you this project wasn't "Cushy" in any way at all. John Dow
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Welcome back John, we missed you
Auckland will rise once more
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLwc9lbJlIQ
Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
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" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
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had to laugh at his tongue in cheek outfit..
A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen
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We successfully secured the resources and support for 7 to be created. Wakefield Park x 2, Wellington College x 1 having since been built and St Pats College with construction now underway with 3 more to come.
Not too shabby at all.
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
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Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
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So confusing.
So media saying we changed our style mid season.
Welnix/Ricki saying we changed our style in the off season.
Players saying we changed our style mid season.
Leo Bertos said: "We started off [the season] so well and made a few changes and tried a few different things and it sort of came back to bite us on the butt a wee bit.
"We tried to change a little bit of style to how we played and obviously results weren't coming that way."
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/8254131/Results-not-talk-is-what-Phoenix-need
WTF?
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