Phoenix Transfer Speculation 2012/13

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Urgh.. when we will get some offseason signing news.. longest.. offseason.. EVER....

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/6766528/Phoenix-put-faith-in-Lindsay-with-extension

2 year extension

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Good news that.Onwards and upwards Cameron.

Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I don't understand why he has been resigned...

I'm all for NZ youth getting contracts, but here is a player who couldn't get a game all year, despite all our injuries and suspensions at the start, fails to get game time for the u23s bar for a couple short cameos behind NZFC players.

What has he done to warrant a two year contract... trained well?

If he has so much potential as Ricki says, then why was he never given a run?

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

He's only 19 remember. Don't think there are many other 19 yo in the oly squad.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Actually does raise an interest issue is whether he would be better as part of the finishing school. At least he'd get chance of game time, and still have a professional set up to train. Down side is he'd need to find a job.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Maybe he only started to show enough toward the end of the season, when we were making a finals run, so understandably wasn't given a run? Who knows.

Expect him to get some gametime next season.

Allegedly

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

hamezilla wrote:

Nah.Keep Pastie & Moss together

TBH I'd like to see Pasty move on.

I think it would be more beneficial for the AWs if they were both regular starters. We all know that Pasty will get injured sooner or later and from then on Glen will be number 1. Better off letting Pasty go and play NZFC or for another pro team and let Basalaj etc become the 2nd keeper.

Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

With Gleeson in the MSL not sure who our top two are for GK.

Patson might be third now in the pecking order so sign an extension for two more years, work hard and retire a penalty saving world cup hero.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

TouchMe wrote:

With Gleeson in the MSL not sure who our top two are for GK.

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Patson might be third now in the pecking order so sign an extension for two more years, work hard and retire a penalty saving world cup hero.

this, maybe do the same thing with Greenie and move him into coaching yoof.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

From what I have heard from friends in Portland who watched Timbers Reserve team games, Gleeson isn't quite above Pasty in terms of ability though. He has bounds of potential, so in a couple of years when Pasty retires, I think he will be head and shoulders above Pastys level.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

TouchMe wrote:

I don't understand why he has been resigned...

What has he done to warrant a two year contract... trained well?

If he has so much potential as Ricki says, then why was he never given a run?

I have no problem with Cameron getting a two year contract. From what I saw of him in practice games he is a talented footballer. He was unfortunate not to get a run this year but he was well down the queue behind Brown, Lia and Smith for a midfield spot.

The trouble is how will he develop as a footballer without regular game time? We don't have a reserve side, he won't be able to do the Academy stuff with Team Wellington. So in reality he will only get to play the midweek friendlies.

Rickie did say last year that his approach with Cam will be year one...zippo, year two bench with occasional appearances, year three possible starts. the guy will have to have mega patience to get through that. In reality the Nix have a very conservative approach to playing youngsters.....if guys don't get playing time then how will we know if they have got the goods?

I kind of thought Cam might have been worth a run at RB this year....he might have had more to offer than playing left footed Tsats there.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Nick Ward @ward_nick wrote:

Enjoying a cold Crown Lager in the @QantasAirways lounge leaving NZ! #happy

Not sure if he's happy about leaving NZ, or happy about having beer at 2pm...

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

2ndBest2012-04-19 14:09:13

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Enjoy state league football.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Mitch Cooper could be a good signing for the phoenix especially that he is currently unattached. Also signing with the nix can help to convince him switch allegiance for the AW's as he lived for 5 years in NZ.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

zinidane wrote:

TouchMe wrote:

I don't understand why he has been resigned...

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What has he done to warrant a two year contract... trained well?

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If he has so much potential as Ricki says, then why was he never given a run?

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I kind of thought Cam might have been worth a run at RB this year....he might have had more to offer than playing left footed Tsats there.

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Reminds me of Marco when he was here. Ricki had played him a few times and it wasn't until Ricki was left with no choice but to play him that he finally got a decent run in the side and the rest is history. Now I'm not saying Cameron Lindsay is going to take the league by storm as Marco did but surely it woulnd't hurt to give him a run. Especially in the pre-season games at least. Surely can't be far behind the likes of Brown and Lia in passing and defensive ability.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Not true.

The first season he learnt and trained,then in the 2nd season as soon as he came back from a 1/3rd of a season injury he made the bench and had an impact. Nothing to do with him being the last choice.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yeah marco's first year was also like an apprenticeship as such, where Ricki seemed to want him to put in the hard hours during that first year to prepare him for the following season.

Seems like he has wanted to do the same with Lindsay. I'm hoping he can be given that bench spot he deserves. He's looked good when I've seen him

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Messi or Ronaldo wud b gud.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Why not just sign Pele as marquee, and get Maradonna in on as injury cover mid season.

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Neither of them has anything on Heskey.

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

abris wrote:

He could replace Tim as vice captain

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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Oi Oi Edgecumbe wrote:

abris wrote:

He could replace Tim as vice captain

Mitch Cooper seems like one of those young kiwis EVERYONE on here has heard of but Ricki will ignore as if he never knew who it was.. reminds me of the millions of players Abris finds haha

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I'd go out tomorrow and make Dan Keat and Michael Boxall good offers to come home. They're not on huge money over there and they're the type of aussie player that other A-League clubs are getting home. Maybe Henderson too but it does seem like his knee is wrecked unfortunately

Normo's coming home

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Oi Oi Edgecumbe wrote:

abris wrote:

He could replace Tim as vice captain

Would it be for ceremonial reasons?

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

james dean wrote:

I'd go out tomorrow and make Dan Keat and Michael Boxall good offers to come home.ï¿½ They're not on huge money over there and they're the type of aussie player that other A-League clubs are getting home.ï¿½ Maybe Henderson too but it does seem like his knee is wrecked unfortunately

I would agree with you - think Boxall could be a great pickup. Young, kiwi, and versatile (apparently).

Keat would also be a good pickup, but I feel like he's still got a lot to prove in the states- he's always had pretty big wraps and I'd stay there.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

surley there is more money in the great game in the USA?

I LOVE LAMP

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Not at the lsquad level they are at. The top guys get good money, the lackey levels get A-Leagueesque wages.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

chefmivec wrote:

surley there is more money in the great game in the USA?

Boxall went into the expansion darft last year and his salary was published at $42,000. I presume that was US dollars, could have been canadian.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

For those interested in some comparison, this site has some pdf's on MLS player wages.

http://www.mlsplayers.org/salary_info.html

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I would really like to see our wage bill

Auckland will rise once more

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

playwithFire wrote:

james dean wrote:

I have no problem Keat choosing to stay in the states. What I'm saying is that the club should be pursuing guys with their profile and getting them to make a decision. Talented, young, kiwis. If they choose to stay in the states and pursue a career there that's not a problem

Normo's coming home

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

VINCE LIA COMMITS HIMSELF TO THE PHOENIX

Vince Liaï¿½s dream of playing for the All Whites could possibly be over, but that hasnï¿½t stopped him committing to the Wellington Phoenix for another two years.

A founder member of the Phoenix, Lia, confirmed today he had signed a two-year extension to his contract and is already looking forward to next season.

ï¿½It was a pretty easy decision to be honest,ï¿½ Lia, 27, said.

ï¿½With this group of players I feel there could be something special happening in the future.

ï¿½Weï¿½ve had a good season and feel we can do even better over the next couple (of seasons).

ï¿½We have the nucleus of a strong squad and if we can just add a bit more quality and depth I honestly believe we can be a top two club.

ï¿½As well as the playing side of things, the new ownership group has ensured there is stability off the field so there is no reason why quality players shouldnï¿½t want to come here.

ï¿½I think this is going to be a very good football club.ï¿½

After five years in Wellington Lia has applied to become a New Zealand citizen, hoping it would enable him to play for the All Whites.

That scenario is now in doubt with him having previously played for Australiaï¿½s under-20 and under-23 sides, but he hasnï¿½t given up all hope.

ï¿½The main thing is to get a New Zealand passport and I havenï¿½t heard how that is going lately,ï¿½ Lia said.

ï¿½Fifa is on record as saying they will listen to each case individually so there is still a chance of it happening.

ï¿½While that (playing for the All Whites) didnï¿½t come into it when I was making my decision, committing myself to New Zealand for another two years canï¿½t harm my cause.

ï¿½If it happens then it is a bonus. The main thing is I am at the Phoenix for another two years and I am delighted about that.ï¿½

Founder

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Can't say I'm too excited about this. But I think he'll be a good squad player, assuming we actually do some business in the window this season.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I have updated him here http://nix-contracts.herokuapp.com/players/16arnies2012-04-20 22:21:05

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

arnies wrote:

Can't say I'm too excited about this. But I think he'll be a good squad player, assuming we actually do some business in the window this season.

Lia's re-signing; surprised - not in the least, disappointed - a bit, worried - very.

What I'm worried about is the prospect of another season of average football - our midfield last season, overall, played unattractive football and Lia was part of the problem - I don't see him being part of the solution. And before anyone jumps down my throat about us still getting to the play-offs playing unattractive football - yes results are very very important and that achievement was great BUT if the only thing that mattered was results no one would ever go to a game - we would all just check the score after the match.

I'm also worried about how good Herbert thinks Lia is - good enough to keep Smith out and consign Sanchez to the wing. What's the point of re-signing imports who are not considered good enough to displace Vince Lia ?

Maybe Lia would be a reasonable squad player if only that's how Herbert used him.

I love the irony of Lia talking about adding quality to the squad.

I live in hope we will sign some quality.................

He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yep.. Im looking for some changes and Lia was one..

Big sigh, "In King Rick we trust"

Dino102012-04-21 09:58:08

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Lia is OK. At his best last season he formed a pretty intense ball winning midfield with Muscat and Brown. He can pass the ball well at times, remember guys need to be making good runs as well. He can fill in at the back when needed as well. My only real concern is that Ricki seems to value him a little highly and possibly play him ahead of others when he shouldn't. But I'm OK with him in the squad.

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almost 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

i was more disappointed with 2 players starting in the midfield that dont like to pass short, no problem with either of them personally, just think only one of them should've been starting.

All season i would've preferred a starting midfield 2 of brown/smith or lia/smith. Ricki didn't want that, but now we could have it through necessity. Smith/Lia I am ok with, and Lia's ability to play a cross-field diagonal ball also seems to have helped us switch things quite well on occasion this season.

Every team needs an enforcer in the middle in the A-league, lia is ours, im happy to have him.

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