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Phoenix Transfer - speculation (Part 2)

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Ricki gets his five at the back... MMM, Dura, Westy, Siggy, DT.

E + R + O

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Hard News wrote:
Dura and Siggy - North as backup for me please.
 
 
really?, sure siggy has his classy moments on defence but are we forgeting that in reality all he does is hoof it up field (or slip in a left hook)
 
In saying that the only memory i have of North is giving a away a penalty against the Knights so now i dont know lol
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Man_utd_fan wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Dura and Siggy - North as backup for me please.


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really?, sure siggy has his classy moments on defence but are we forgeting that in reality all he does is hoof it up field (or slip in a left hook)

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In saying that the only memory i have of North is giving a away a penalty against the Knights so now i dont know lol



Just look at their record and North seems significantly better. I'd back North in a foot race over Siggy too, which has been a problem for the latter against quicker forwards in the past. But hasn't Ricki stated that if North comes south then he'd play all three at the back?Luis Garcia2010-07-29 18:48:43
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Luis Garcia wrote:
Just look at their record and North seems significantly better. I'd back North in a foot race over Siggy too, which has been a problem for the latter against quicker forwards in the past. But hasn't Ricki stated that if North comes south then he'd play all three at the back?

That was my point.
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Siggy is pritty raw and is slow.

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If Ricki does play 3 at the back I hope Leo is still able to bring the magic pushing forward, unlike in SA where he was continually having to drop back.(not his fault at all imo)

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Hard News wrote:
Dura and Siggy - North as backup for me please.



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I don't see North as a like for like replacement for McKain

Mckain and Dura where a classic centreback combo imo

from memory North and Dura are quite similar in style

if we get him it'll be interesting to see how Ricki sets up the defence
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cant find much of toto on youtube

but aparantly toto makes the pass in the 16th second in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_dhMDQn6mo
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tigers wrote:
I don't see North as a like for like replacement for McKain

Mckain and Dura where a classic centreback combo imo

from memory North and Dura are quite similar in style

if we get him it'll be interesting to see how Ricki sets up the defence
 
The two of them did OK together for Newcastle the other year, so I'm not too concerned there.
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Yeah - was thinking that too. Very similar players - both played right back a few times, like to make forward runs and are also not that tall.

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Paulinho wrote:
tigers wrote:
I don't see North as a like for like replacement for McKain Mckain and Dura where a classic centreback combo imo from memory North and Dura are quite similar in style if we get him it'll be interesting to see how Ricki sets up the defence


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The two of them did OK together for Newcastle the other year, so I'm not too concerned there.


OK enough to win a Grand Final... not too shabby IMO
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fair point
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You gotta remember Newcastle did also have Adam Griffiths at Centre Back. So it might not of always been Dura and Jade. For example in the grand final Jade was injured. But in saying that I do think they will be great if Jade sign.
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I really don't want 343 for the nix. The Mac/greeny combo seems to be working a treat with a 442 and Bertos looks really willing to attack but will also defend. It also lets us adjust to the 451 with toto in behind the striker which seemed to work.

for me, if North Signed then i would play this line up against GCU:

                Paston                                 ||         Crowther
Muscat North Durante Lochhead             ||         Hearfield
             Brown   Lia                             ||         Daniel
  Bertos                        Ifill                   ||         Toto
      Greenacre MacCallister                    ||         Pav


Could start manny instead of Lia and have Hearfield start too. Could have siggy on the bench?

But that leaves us with heaps of room tactically to bring on impact players.


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That 4-4-2 you speak of was really a 4-2-3-1 against Boca, with Greenie playing in the hole, Bertos as a winger and Ifill as something of an inside-forward (Muscat's forward runs were when Ifill cut inside).
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Also, if he wants to play 3 at the back, then for me, we are gonna have to sign another back as just Musa is not nearly enough cover


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Just out of interest has the number of subs increased this season?
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North is an adequate defender but he is overrated. I have seen this guy make some terrible mistakes (two howlers in one game against Melbourne stick in the memory). Siggy may not be the fastest thing on two legs but he is extremely reliable and makes very few errors. As a defender he easily outshone North in 2008-09.

But, hey, North is a Socceroo so I guess he must be better....
 
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Doubt it

a.haak

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playwithFire wrote:

for me, if North Signed then i would play this line up against GCU:

                Paston                                 ||         Crowther
Muscat North Durante Lochhead             ||         Hearfield
             Brown   Lia                             ||         Daniel
  Bertos                        Ifill                   ||         Toto
      Greenacre MacCallister                    ||         Pav

 
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Woops yeah was thinking back to finals when we had bigger bench. Hmm I don't like having a CB on the bench. If we have muscat on the pitch then he could do the job. Would rather have impact attacking players.

And BamBam hasnt signed or even trialled, if he does sign then I guess we'd expect him to be ahead of Pav?


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So who is our current AW yet to be signed?

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Was probably Vicelich and fell through.
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Maybe it was Aaron Clapham ...? Surely he is much better than Michael Ferrante but need higher brand of football.
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Hard News wrote:
Dura and Siggy - North as backup for me please.
 
+1
 
though this was the really good thing about our team with McKain, Dura and Siggie. 3 quality players who would be first on the team sheet in 2 positions. Made us very strong IMO.
martinb2010-07-30 08:29:48


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Therk wrote:
Was probably Vicelich and fell through.


Pity too, if we had picked him and North up we would defo have one of, if not the best, defences in the League.
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Therk wrote:
Was probably Vicelich and fell through.
 
Agreed
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playwithFire wrote:
Also, if he wants to play 3 at the back, then for me, we are gonna have to sign another back as just Musa is not nearly enough cover
 
Disagree. We would have plenty of defensive cover and if one of those 3 (Dura, Siggy, North) is injured/suspended you revert to 4-4-2 (even if it had to happen mid game).
 
 
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Yep, Muscat can cover CB as well I do believe. If absolutely needed.
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From Nix twitter:

"Major player announcement this afternoon, stay tuned ..."
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Major player announcement later this afternoon from Nix FB.
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Come on speculation thread, show the trialists thread who's boss. It's your time to shine!
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Sol Campbell walks out on the toon and signs up for three months with the Nix.

Judas said "I just hope I can repay the gaffer for his faith in me, just like I hoped I could repay all the other gaffers"

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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yes jade north      
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cant wait for the "major announcement"
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