Vs RRRRRIVALS Sunday 23rd 9:30pm

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

If Pasty is fully fit, he should get the nod. He's our No.1 keeper

See what I did there!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Jag wrote:

If Pasty is fully fit, he should get the nod. He's our No.1 keeper

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See what I did there!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Who is the better outfield player?

"Phoenix till they lose"

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

One of the benefits of being sober on Sunday was that I got to "see" the match and I honestly thought that Warner looked composed and solid in our goal and looked to have a good understanding with our defence.

Yes, we all love Pasty and he is a great keeper but for some reason he makes me a little nervous every time I watch him play.

Didn't get that feeling with Warner

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Warner should get the spot, give pasty a week's rest

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

I think we are all wondering what injury he is going to get each time he makes a save. Also when he goes to make a clearing kick there's a worry that he'll mis-time it and fall over.

"Phoenix till they lose"

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

One of the benefits of being sober on Sunday was that I got to "see" the match

There are more benefits?

"Phoenix till they lose"

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

C-Diddy wrote:

One of the benefits of being sober on Sunday was that I got to "see" the match

There are more benefits?

I was also able to distinguish between the ladies and the gents at "Shirts Off" Time!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

Too early to appraise Warner. He did everything he was asked against the Jets, but the Jets didn't ask anything of him at all.

He had one simple save in the second half and took one cross really well - and that was his game. The only observation I was able to make was the length of his goalkicks are a little lacking.

Hence, I am completely ambivalent. Ricki has seen Warner in training and will know what he's capable of. At this point, we don't.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Warner did have that Crowther moment, where he charged out of the box in the first half.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I agree that playing 1 games against a team that took 2 shots the whole game isn't enough to decide if Warner should be there instead of Paston.

However, Tony has pedigree and experience - and doesn't it happen at most clubs that if the starting keeper is injured and his replacement keeps a clean sheet/has a decent performance he then gets to start?

I'm just happy Crowther isn't in the frame anymore!!

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Keeper's spot still Paston's to lose imo. Didn't see any evidence on Sunday that Warner deserves to be starting over Paston, he hardly made a save all day.

Not saying Warner isn't a good keeper, just saying that until Paston has a shocker and/or Warner has a blinder, Paston should be starting.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

How can Warner have a blinder if Paston is starting?

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

How can Warner have a blinder if Paston is starting?

When Paston gets injured again.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I would choose Paston, he played very well against GCU. I think Warner should definitely be the backup to him, but if they keep pushing each other for the starting position, then that can only be good for the team.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Leggy wrote:

C-Diddy wrote:

How can Warner have a blinder if Paston is starting?

When Paston gets injured again.

So play Paston until he crocks again or until he has a shocker??

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Pasty for me

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

ShowUsYaNix wrote:

Please define what a "shocker" would be.

Winning 5 - 4 and Paston being responsible for all 4?
Losing 1 - 0 and Paston again responsible?
Losing 3 - 0 and Paston not responsible for any of the goals?

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

ShowUsYaNix wrote:

A shocker doesn't have to be defined by giving away goals, it's determined by the overall performance. I think if we give him an overall Match Rating of 4 or less, then we can call it a shocker.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

newzealandpower wrote:

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Kind of how Paston got the number 1 keeper spot ahead of Moss.....

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

C-Diddy wrote:

ShowUsYaNix wrote:

A shocker doesn't have to be defined by giving away goals, it's determined by the overall performance. I think if we give him an overall Match Rating of 4 or less, then we can call it a shocker.

Maybe need to be definately sure that Mark Paston is fully fit before deciding who will keep. Paston has a history of injuries and not usually simple ones, would hate for him to come bak to early and risk a more severe injury

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

^this, a rib injury for a keeper could be a hassle, if it doesn't heal properly he's always going to be in pain when diving for a ball - which my hinder his ability to stop the shot. Personally Warner did nothing wrong - organised the back 4 well. I'd be happy to see him play against Perth.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think the back four actually organised themselves and did a brilliant job of it.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The back four played amazingly well, but they played exactly the same way when Paston was behind them against GCU, so I don't think it was Warners presence that made them play well.

Having said that, I don't want to see Pasty back on the field until he is completely healed up, the last thing we need is another Ifill situation, where we play an injured player and get forced into subbing them 15 minutes in.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

theprof wrote:

You're always a bit conscious of it too when it's healing (speaking as a Goalkeeper and have had rib injuries) so there's a moment of hesitation as you go to dive or impact on that side.

But then, i've not yet had the call from Ricki, and im no pro.. these guys may have just had it trained out of them.

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

C-Diddy wrote:

One of the benefits of being sober on Sunday was that I got to "see" the match

There are more benefits?

I was also able to distinguish between the ladies and the gents at "Shirts Off" Time!

Me too....................man boobs?

Nostalgia isnt what it used to be...........

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Better organisation than Pasty?ï¿½ No chance.

We're not going to start this again are we?

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

goldienz wrote:

theprof wrote:

Coaches can usually tell if that's happening at training and the players, being professionals, should be able to tell as well. I'd be terribly worried if Ricki or Mark weren't able to observe any difference in performance that the injury might be causing. Ultimately though, it's Paston's call whether he feels like it's going to effect him or not. He's a professional and I doubt he'd put it on the line for the team if he legitimately thought it was not 100%.

Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Pedigree?.

The smoggie at my work reckons Warner's nickname was Tony Bonus because of the amount of time he has spent on the bench.

COYN

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Typical Liverpool fan, living in the past.

He left Liverpool in 1999...

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

hamezilla wrote:

Pedigree?.

The smoggie at my work reckons Warner's nickname was Tony Bonus because of the amount of time he has spent on the bench.

hahaah yeah he is right too. However, he must have been half decent to be on the bench at Liverpool for so many years. You would hope, at least.

Anyway, just realized there is no point in this whole debate since we are going to get a good spanking so I don't think it will matter so much who's in goal.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

hamezilla wrote:

Pedigree?.

The smoggie at my work reckons Warner's nickname was Tony Bonus because of the amount of time he has spent on the bench.

VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

newzealandpower wrote:

hamezilla wrote:

Pedigree?.

The smoggie at my work reckons Warner's nickname wasï¿½Tony Bonus because of the amount of time he has spent on the bench.

hahaah yeah he is right too. However, he must have been half decent to be on the bench at Liverpool for so many years. You would hope, at least.

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Anyway, just realized there is no point in this whole debate since we are going to get a good spanking so I don't think it will matter so much who's in goal.

Warner had to compete with Michael Stensgard early on in his Liverpool Career and David James towards the end of his Liverpool days and had he not left at end of 1999 season would have been #2 or #3 behind Sander Westerveld and/or Brad Freidel.

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I'm in the Paston camp under the provision that Paston has fully recovered from his rib injury, who ever plays keeper will be tested and should be fit.
Paston knows Smeltz well from All whites and Phoenix so should be first choice to keep him out.
Haven't seen enough from Warner to put him in there, He might be a great keeper but I know that Paston is an excellent keeper so I would be inclined to stick with the known quantity.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

How can Warner have a blinder if Paston is starting?
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In short, he can't, so either he has an amazing game in the one start he gets, or he doesn't start once the number one gets back. I know it's very difficult to have a good game when the opposition strikers are useless, or to appear to have a good game when the back 4 just shut the opposition out, but imo that's just the nature of being a keeper.

[QUOTE=C-Diddy] Please define what a "shocker" would be.

Winning 5 - 4 and Paston being responsible for all 4?
Losing 1 - 0 and Paston again responsible?
Losing 3 - 0 and Paston not responsible for any of the goals?

As other people have said, it can't always be measured on the number of goals, but being responsible for 4 goals and still winning would definitely be a shocker. As for the other options, the result of the game doesn't necessarily indicate the keepers performance.

Again this can be a little unfair if faced with an inept attack and an impenetrable defence or vice versa, but that's just how it goes. My point was that it's Pasty's to lose and Warner's to gain, however unfair that may seem to be.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

asmodeus_82 wrote:

I agree with the rest of your post but Smeltz knows Paston as well as Paston knows Smeltz so that argument just goes round in circles. Dodgy logic there

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

aitkenmike wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Better organisation than Pasty?ï¿½ No chance.

We're not going to start this again are we?

I think we should. For old time's sake.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

aitkenmike wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Better organisation than Pasty?ï¿½ No chance.

We're not going to start this again are we?

I think we should. For old time's sake.

SACK PASTON!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

But he organises the backline so well.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

He also arranges his towel and water bottles in the net better and he also doesn't kick little divots out of the edge of the 6 yard box like Warner does. This one is easy for me.

Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

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