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1. I am perfectly calm at the moment and I don't particularly give a toss about the credibility of the Wiki editor
 
2. I certainly don't agree that losing Rojas and Ward will mean we automatically finish bottom of the heap next season
 
3. For all we know, it may always have been Marco's intention to bugger off, irrespective of what the Phoenix had offered him. Those reasons may well have absolutely nothing at all to do with the financial position of the Phoenix or whatever else is on offer here
 
4. I would assume that the club are actively targeting new players, to replace the players we are releasing from their contracts, if nothing else.
 
5. Since their inception, until the sh*t hit the fan this year, the Phoenix have been continually paraded as the poster boys for being a well run club. Despite that, we don't exactly have a shining reputation for signing "star" players. This would suggest to me that there are other considerations, outwith the Club itself, which make coming to Wellington a less attractive option than some other clubs.  Just means we have to work harder on recruitment.
 
If people want to start hitting the Prozac, that's fine with me. As I am blessed with good old Scottish pragmatism, I think I'll wait and see what develops before I start to tie the noose round my neck.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Thanks for those sensible comments, Jag.

Now you mention it, the Nix have a reputation for signing other people's garbage and they end up shining. Smeltz and Iffy are the classic examples of this, and Nick Ward has also done much better than with the Tards.

But I don't remember - was it also the case last season that we couldn't hold on to any players who were off contract and we actually wanted? If it was the case, then I certainly am overreacting and should start back on the Flinstones Chewable Morphine, but I didn't think it was. The only one I can remember losing was McKain (how did he end up doing in Saudi, anyway?)

And I really HOPE that the club are actively targeting good new players. Ricki signed Toto last year, so you'll forgive me if I remain nervous.Doloras2011-02-23 13:39:02

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Doloras wrote:
Sorry if I'm freaking anyone out, but I think my central point - that an inability to attract or keep top players will hurt the Nix far worse than Terry's financial shenanigans -


Since when has this been a strength of the Phoenix?

At the end of season 2 we lost our best player, yet the following season kind of worked out for us.
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That's because we signed Iffy. This year we signed Toto. My confidence in our ability to pick 'em has been shaken.

Still, maybe it opens up squad places for Lovemore and Clapham.

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Doloras really has made an outstanding effort today to get quoted in the next anti Terry story.
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I can't remember who was off contract last year. I'm sure somebody will know!
As I said earlier, I actually see a lot of similarities between us and the Warriors. They had, and still have, real problems attracting 'top tier' players and for most of the time had to content themselves with picking up players that nobody else wanted, or were getting close to the end of their careers. They also wasted cash signing a few lemons too!
 
I don't think the current uncertainty is helping, but I do think the thought of physically moving to New Zealand isn't attractive to a lot of Aussie players (and maybe even players from further afield). I don't think it's as cut and dried as them worrying about our money situation.
 
I also hope the Club are targetting decent players. Hopefully once the financials are sorted, that will be one less obstacle to recruiting the right people

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Doloras wrote:
That's because we signed Iffy. This year we signed Toto. My confidence in our ability to pick 'em has been shaken.

Still, maybe it opens up squad places for Lovemore and Clapham.


That's because we lucked into Ifill. Last year we bombed with Toto. This year, who knows? It's way too early to predict doom and gloom.

Btw, if you expect Lovemore and Clapham to be saviours of the Nix, think you're somewhat mistaken.
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a million positive comments and they'll pick out the negative every time.

Allegedly

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Of course, we could just sign up the entire Auckland City squad. They'd do a job for us.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
Of course, we could just sign up the entire Auckland City squad. They'd do a job for us.


BRING BACK MULLIGAN

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Wimmin! You having hot flushes, Dol?
 Yes by the edit history in Wiki, the author has plenty of contributions in place from that IP address.
Dissappointing if true re Marco, also Ward moving on a shame but no fat lady singing just yet.We will see.
  

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Doloras wrote:
Jag wrote:
Of course, we could just sign up the entire Auckland City squad. They'd do a job for us.


BRING BACK MULLIGAN
 
There you go. See, things could be worse

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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Jag wrote:
As I am blessed with good old Scottish pragmatism, I think I'll wait and see what develops before I start to tie the noose round my neck.
 
Ah! A chip off the old block since Doloras is Welsh.
 
 
(btw dourness does not equal pragmatism)
 
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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This is going to be a l-o-n-g off season.
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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RedGed wrote:
Wimmin! You having hot flushes, Dol?


I have heard that, when a woman goes through menopause, the drop in estrogen levels sometimes has her acting as crazy, irrational and aggressive as a man does all the time.

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Junior82 wrote:
This is going to be a l-o-n-g off season.
 
 
 
Fun, though!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Junior82 wrote:
This is going to be a l-o-n-g off season.
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It always is.
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Look an editor just removed all the non-sourced information.

Incredible.
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20 legend wrote:
Look an editor just removed all the non-sourced information.

Incredible.


Yeah, but some of it was true, like the stuff about North and Diego.

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Got to love wikipedia.

Allegedly

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Whoa. Thought there was a new signing when there are 4 new pages in this thread already today. Blimey. What News said except bigger.
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"Clarke Boswell" players for the reserves apparently.
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Doloras wrote:
20 legend wrote:
Look an editor just removed all the non-sourced information.

Incredible.


Yeah, but some of it was true, like the stuff about North and Diego.
 
Phew!  Welcome back Doloras.  Thought we'd lost you for a while.
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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simon_hampton wrote:
Whoa. Thought there was a new signing when there are 4 new pages in this thread already today. Blimey. What News said except bigger.
 
Needs more Paulm's size 7 font.
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Junior82 wrote:

Phew!� Welcome back Doloras.� Thought we'd lost you for a while.

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Hmmm? What's all this about? I haven't posted on this forum since 10 this morning. What are you... oh. Right. The other Doloras got control of the keyboard for a while. Eeek. Don't I feel embarrassed.

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I, for one, am shocked - SHOCKED - that people are engaging in speculation in this thread, of all places!  What is the Yellow Fever coming to?
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Hard News wrote:
So it wasn't you Hamster?


What are you talking about? Of course not.
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simon_hampton wrote:
Hard News wrote:
So it wasn't you Hamster?


What are you talking about? Of course not.


It would be nice to hear who did edit the Nix's wikipage with unsourced rumour saying that Ward and Rojas were both gone.

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Can't someone wiki-smart work out when it was edited and all that?
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Can't someone wiki-smart work out when it was edited and all that?
 
oxymoron of the year.
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Doloras wrote:
Junior82 wrote:

Phew!  Welcome back Doloras.  Thought we'd lost you for a while.

 


Hmmm? What's all this about? I haven't posted on this forum since 10 this morning. What are you... oh. Right. The other Doloras got control of the keyboard for a while. Eeek. Don't I feel embarrassed.




Noice. The united states of Doloras.The off season could be...interesting. RedGed2011-02-23 15:11:53

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Well, despite my past mischiefs, it was not me who edited that Wiki page.
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simon_hampton wrote:
Can't someone wiki-smart work out when it was edited and all that?


Er, yes we can. We know it was edited by someone with a history of accurate edits to the Nix wikipage, coming in from TelstraClear in Wellington, this morning at 11:48am... nine minutes after dunnix brought it to our attention. Hmmm. It's possible that this forum and Wikipedia have a clock difference... but still, hmmm.

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RedGed wrote:
The united states of Doloras.


Love that show. For now, let's refer to the paranoid, ranting personality as "Skippy".

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Right, back to speculation, Perths Smeltz deal could be called off because FFA are contemplating reducing the marquee back to 1 spot. Meaning if Sterjovski sees out his final deal, Smeltz will not be going there.
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Interesting.
 
ANother club are 100% certain they have his signature.  maybe he has signed everywhere and he's waiting on his wife to decide which one he honors.

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20 legend wrote:


20% Chance that person lives right next to the basin.
90% Chance they live in Wellington.

Anything else you'd like to know?


If you have an hour to kill, can you go through their previous edits to see if they've done anything else "mischievous" in the past, or whether it's been good coin all through?

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