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WPM 2026/27 Squad Speculation, Confirmation and Mutual Termination
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ballane wrote:Joey Johns wrote:We have one visa signed and had Rufer re-sign not sure of any others announed. So if your upset about Rufer signing not sure why.
Dont love the direction of the signings. Honestly, if the club wants to half arse each season due to financial constraint's then we should just make the call to be a development club and aim to sell players to MLS/lower European leagues for cash. Not going to compete in the league by signing NPL players or recycled A league players, would be much cheaper/beneficial to pour resources into the academy and try control that market.
Best to wait till we have announced some signings before complaining about the quality of signings.
No Rufer is very good, no issues with him. But we are two months out from the season starting, off the back of another crap season and the link so far is an NPL player after losing a bunch of A League level guys. Whats the vision here for the fans? do fuck all and barely have a squad together until a week before the season kicks off then proceed to have another mediocre year and expect fans to show up? Its very confusing because the ladies team seems very active and wanting to grow, the mens team is stagnant - are they run by different people?
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Really just dont get the impatience of some the World Cup only finished just over a month ago. It was pretty obvious the Phoenix were waiting till Singh and Rufer had decided what they were doing so they could finalise what direction they took.
Greenie has been pretty open that they are looking for players yet some just choose to ignore that fact. Weeks to go before im anywhere near worried about whats happening.
Wouldnt bother listening to some of the rumours shit Rufer was long gone according to some of them.
Greenie has been pretty open that they are looking for players yet some just choose to ignore that fact. Weeks to go before im anywhere near worried about whats happening.
Wouldnt bother listening to some of the rumours shit Rufer was long gone according to some of them.
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Squad of 16, one of which is a scholarship. Riley Bidois would make 17 if true.
This is less than any of the other A-League sides currently (Brisbane next lowest at 19, although 5 scholarships).
By my calculation we can still bring in 4 visa players, another up to 3-4 Kiwi (or Aussie) players and then a few scholarships on top of that. So a lot of work to do, with 8+ players still to come.
With 2 months to go until the season starts, still plenty of time, but I can't blame people for starting to get nervous, particularly with how thin our attacking options currently are.
This is less than any of the other A-League sides currently (Brisbane next lowest at 19, although 5 scholarships).
By my calculation we can still bring in 4 visa players, another up to 3-4 Kiwi (or Aussie) players and then a few scholarships on top of that. So a lot of work to do, with 8+ players still to come.
With 2 months to go until the season starts, still plenty of time, but I can't blame people for starting to get nervous, particularly with how thin our attacking options currently are.
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ballane wrote:
Really just dont get the impatience of some the World Cup only finished just over a month ago. It was pretty obvious the Phoenix were waiting till Singh and Rufer had decided what they were doing so they could finalise what direction they took.
Greenie has been pretty open that they are looking for players yet some just choose to ignore that fact. Weeks to go before im anywhere near worried about whats happening.
Wouldnt bother listening to some of the rumours shit Rufer was long gone according to some of them.
Yes. Only recently existing Phoenix players next season plans (Alex Rufer extension, Luke Brooke Smith to England Portsmouth.)
Then to focus more onto new players the next weeks. I'm sure they will want at least 3 new players to sign before pre season game 1. Then a few more before pre season game 2.
Then to focus more onto new players the next weeks. I'm sure they will want at least 3 new players to sign before pre season game 1. Then a few more before pre season game 2.
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Personally very happy with our business so far. McGarry, Rufer, Gray are as good in their positions as we could reasonably have hoped for. Nagasawa maybe could be improved upon but he is decent and brings a lot of experience, leadership and continuity. There is time for attacking signings, though I'll be concerned if we start to get signings in that department like Najjarine and Mileusnic. I want better than A-League journeymen this time around.
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imanixsupporter wrote:
Personally very happy with our business so far. McGarry, Rufer, Gray are as good in their positions as we could reasonably have hoped for. Nagasawa maybe could be improved upon but he is decent and brings a lot of experience, leadership and continuity. There is time for attacking signings, though I'll be concerned if we start to get signings in that department like Najjarine and Mileusnic. I want better than A-League journeymen this time around.
As a minimum they can't have a repeat of signing unfit at the time and 32, Nikola Mileusnic & Marco Rojas. Every new player must, must be fit. None of this hope so mindset.
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ballane wrote:Joey Johns wrote:We have one visa signed and had Rufer re-sign not sure of any others announed. So if your upset about Rufer signing not sure why.
Dont love the direction of the signings. Honestly, if the club wants to half arse each season due to financial constraint's then we should just make the call to be a development club and aim to sell players to MLS/lower European leagues for cash. Not going to compete in the league by signing NPL players or recycled A league players, would be much cheaper/beneficial to pour resources into the academy and try control that market.
Best to wait till we have announced some signings before complaining about the quality of signings.
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imanixsupporter wrote:
Personally very happy with our business so far. McGarry, Rufer, Gray are as good in their positions as we could reasonably have hoped for. Nagasawa maybe could be improved upon but he is decent and brings a lot of experience, leadership and continuity. There is time for attacking signings, though I'll be concerned if we start to get signings in that department like Najjarine and Mileusnic. I want better than A-League journeymen this time around.
Think Nagasawa stepped up a level last season compared to his first and outside of Eze was probably the import worth keeping, will see if he pushes up another gear but is probably the quality we need from our imports
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Joey Johns wrote:imanixsupporter wrote:Think Nagasawa stepped up a level last season compared to his first and outside of Eze was probably the import worth keeping, will see if he pushes up another gear but is probably the quality we need from our imports
Personally very happy with our business so far. McGarry, Rufer, Gray are as good in their positions as we could reasonably have hoped for. Nagasawa maybe could be improved upon but he is decent and brings a lot of experience, leadership and continuity. There is time for attacking signings, though I'll be concerned if we start to get signings in that department like Najjarine and Mileusnic. I want better than A-League journeymen this time around.
People commented the Chief played him out of position sometimes (defensive midfield). He is best between attacking midfield and central midfield. So at 34, they must get an attacking midfield substitute for him now.
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PKB wrote:imanixsupporter wrote:As a minimum they can't have a repeat of signing unfit at the time and 32, Nikola Mileusnic & Marco Rojas. Every new player must, must be fit. None of this hope so mindset.
Personally very happy with our business so far. McGarry, Rufer, Gray are as good in their positions as we could reasonably have hoped for. Nagasawa maybe could be improved upon but he is decent and brings a lot of experience, leadership and continuity. There is time for attacking signings, though I'll be concerned if we start to get signings in that department like Najjarine and Mileusnic. I want better than A-League journeymen this time around.
When you listen to Greenie talk to me dosnt sound like those are the sort of players he would be happy settling with. He seems to have a determination to give the fans something we havnt had for some time. Have been happy with the start they have made with signings the true test will be the quality or lack of it of the visa signings. More than happy to wait but for team combinations would prefer to see them done sooner than later.
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ballane wrote:
Really just dont get the impatience of some the World Cup only finished just over a month ago. It was pretty obvious the Phoenix were waiting till Singh and Rufer had decided what they were doing so they could finalise what direction they took.
Greenie has been pretty open that they are looking for players yet some just choose to ignore that fact. Weeks to go before im anywhere near worried about whats happening.
Wouldnt bother listening to some of the rumours shit Rufer was long gone according to some of them.
I mean, normally this approach is appropriate when the club had a monopoly on most of the football public in NZ. But i dont think they can afford to do it while our now biggest rivals have achieved more in two years than the club has in its entire existence. Im not worried we are going to be shit, im more worried that the club seems to be going in the same direction after last year.
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Joey Johns wrote:ballane wrote:I mean, normally this approach is appropriate when the club had a monopoly on most of the football public in NZ. But i dont think they can afford to do it while our now biggest rivals have achieved more in two years than the club has in its entire existence. Im not worried we are going to be shit, im more worried that the club seems to be going in the same direction after last year.
Really just dont get the impatience of some the World Cup only finished just over a month ago. It was pretty obvious the Phoenix were waiting till Singh and Rufer had decided what they were doing so they could finalise what direction they took.
Greenie has been pretty open that they are looking for players yet some just choose to ignore that fact. Weeks to go before im anywhere near worried about whats happening.
Wouldnt bother listening to some of the rumours shit Rufer was long gone according to some of them.
Still about 9 and a half weeks until season starts to sign about 9 players, so no, we don't know that.
The Aussies will be more match fit round 1 though, with Australia Cup to help them.
The Aussies will be more match fit round 1 though, with Australia Cup to help them.
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Joey Johns wrote:ballane wrote:I mean, normally this approach is appropriate when the club had a monopoly on most of the football public in NZ. But i dont think they can afford to do it while our now biggest rivals have achieved more in two years than the club has in its entire existence. Im not worried we are going to be shit, im more worried that the club seems to be going in the same direction after last year.
Really just dont get the impatience of some the World Cup only finished just over a month ago. It was pretty obvious the Phoenix were waiting till Singh and Rufer had decided what they were doing so they could finalise what direction they took.
Greenie has been pretty open that they are looking for players yet some just choose to ignore that fact. Weeks to go before im anywhere near worried about whats happening.
Wouldnt bother listening to some of the rumours shit Rufer was long gone according to some of them.
Sure sounds like your not trusting anything that Greenie has spoken about so far and i really dont get that. Me i prefer to have faith in the things he has spoken about. Couldnt give a shit what bling have acheived in 2 years and hope those in the club arnt focusing to much on them. They have done some good things heading into the new season and hopefully they continue that, if not you can bet i will join those calling them out. But for know think they deserve to be given a chance.
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The other thing is that our attack needs time to gel together and understand each other’s roles.
At the moment we have Nagasawa and maybe Piper locked as players in our front 4. Walker, if he’s fit. And probably/hopefully add McGarry there if he’s bombing forward, and by the same logic Sheridan as part of 6 attacking players.
The sooner we can start getting players instinctively used to each other and trusting each other’s runs, positioning and ability to find those runs the better.
At the moment we have Nagasawa and maybe Piper locked as players in our front 4. Walker, if he’s fit. And probably/hopefully add McGarry there if he’s bombing forward, and by the same logic Sheridan as part of 6 attacking players.
The sooner we can start getting players instinctively used to each other and trusting each other’s runs, positioning and ability to find those runs the better.
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martinb wrote:
The other thing is that our attack needs time to gel together and understand each other’s roles.
At the moment we have Nagasawa and maybe Piper locked as players in our front 4. Walker, if he’s fit. And probably/hopefully add McGarry there if he’s bombing forward, and by the same logic Sheridan as part of 6 attacking players.
The sooner we can start getting players instinctively used to each other and trusting each other’s runs, positioning and ability to find those runs the better.
I hope they will be ready to sign 4 new starters this month and leave 4 or so substitutes for after that.
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Anyone more in the know than me know if Greenie has discussed keeping players in more defined positions i.e. Kelly-Heald, Sheridan, Piper etc i know theyre versatile but the seemed to be tinkered with alot under chiefy and it cant be easy to develop if you're out of position a bunch
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imanixsupporter wrote:
Personally very happy with our business so far. McGarry, Rufer, Gray are as good in their positions as we could reasonably have hoped for. Nagasawa maybe could be improved upon but he is decent and brings a lot of experience, leadership and continuity. There is time for attacking signings, though I'll be concerned if we start to get signings in that department like Najjarine and Mileusnic. I want better than A-League journeymen this time around.
If we want "better than A-League journeymen" then they would likely be less known, come from overseas, and want to make a better name for themselves / get a better future deal elsewhere.
If we do not have money to compete for them with other A League clubs on wages then we may need to compete on appetite for risk (getting dud vs getting a gem).
If we do not have money to compete for them with other A League clubs on wages then we may need to compete on appetite for risk (getting dud vs getting a gem).
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Joey Johns wrote:
Anyone more in the know than me know if Greenie has discussed keeping players in more defined positions i.e. Kelly-Heald, Sheridan, Piper etc i know theyre versatile but the seemed to be tinkered with alot under chiefy and it cant be easy to develop if you're out of position a bunch
Very good point. They suffered from being played out of position too often. Kazuki Nagasawa will be moved forward, the player said so. Won't be defensive midfield again, that was never his best position, not here and not in Japan. He is best between attacking midfield and central midfield.
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PKB wrote:Joey Johns wrote:Very good point. They suffered from being played out of position too often. Kazuki Nagasawa will be moved forward, the player said so. Won't be defensive midfield again, that was never his best position, not here and not in Japan. He is best between attacking midfield and central midfield.
Anyone more in the know than me know if Greenie has discussed keeping players in more defined positions i.e. Kelly-Heald, Sheridan, Piper etc i know theyre versatile but the seemed to be tinkered with alot under chiefy and it cant be easy to develop if you're out of position a bunch
If Greeny plays his 4-2-2-2 Nagasawa should be one of the higher midfielders. Hopefully Walker can remain injury free and we can what he can do.
Rufer and FRC for the two sixes.
Where does Piper fit in ...one of the forwards?
Rufer and FRC for the two sixes.
Where does Piper fit in ...one of the forwards?
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Southernix wrote:
Needs some work on shooting & decisions, but I think Piper is definitely more a forward than anything else now, although could still slot into defense in an emergency.
agree, he can be a bit of a donkey sometimes but his hold up play and physicality is a real asset, just need someone more technically gifted to play off him.
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Is Roa Conchie ahead of Cassidy? Has Cassidy signed?
Also Roa Conchie has done some good work further forward too. And his defense is okay, but he hasn’t become renowned for it. I wouldn’t have said that FRC had guaranteed an A league starting spot on his displays to date…
Has Greenie?
And we’re definitely not getting Hollman?
Also Roa Conchie has done some good work further forward too. And his defense is okay, but he hasn’t become renowned for it. I wouldn’t have said that FRC had guaranteed an A league starting spot on his displays to date…
Has Greenie?
And we’re definitely not getting Hollman?
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Cassidy has another year on a scholarship, but when given the chance to play him last year (against Macarthur), Roa Conchie was chosen and Cassidy didn't even make the bench. I'd expect we bring in a visa player who will start over either of them though.
Dunno what happened with Hollman but the lack of anything happening recently seems to indicate rumours were likely not true.
Dunno what happened with Hollman but the lack of anything happening recently seems to indicate rumours were likely not true.
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Southernix wrote:
Needs some work on shooting & decisions, but I think Piper is definitely more a forward than anything else now, although could still slot into defense in an emergency.
He is a substitute. He started because Nikola Mileusnic was always hurt/out of form and Nathan Walker was hurt.
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Bradman99 wrote:PKB wrote:If Greeny plays his 4-2-2-2 Nagasawa should be one of the higher midfielders. Hopefully Walker can remain injury free and we can what he can do.Joey Johns wrote:Very good point. They suffered from being played out of position too often. Kazuki Nagasawa will be moved forward, the player said so. Won't be defensive midfield again, that was never his best position, not here and not in Japan. He is best between attacking midfield and central midfield.
Anyone more in the know than me know if Greenie has discussed keeping players in more defined positions i.e. Kelly-Heald, Sheridan, Piper etc i know theyre versatile but the seemed to be tinkered with alot under chiefy and it cant be easy to develop if you're out of position a bunch
Rufer and FRC for the two sixes.
Where does Piper fit in ...one of the forwards?
Roa Conchie and Anaru Cassidy probably deserve 1 to 1 coaching this pre season. Neither are at A League starting level yet. Maybe too, if their new attacking midfielders are good enough, they will try pick the ball up & help them.
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WanderingSheep wrote:
Fuck, all these responses and I thought we’d signed someone 😂
Even if they have someone ready today there is no way they would post that immediately after the Erceg signing. I imagine Chris Greenacre could
have a big week next week then?
have a big week next week then?
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martinb wrote:
Is Roa Conchie ahead of Cassidy? Has Cassidy signed?
Also Roa Conchie has done some good work further forward too. And his defense is okay, but he hasn’t become renowned for it. I wouldn’t have said that FRC had guaranteed an A league starting spot on his displays to date…
Has Greenie?
And we’re definitely not getting Hollman?
I'd say FRC is ahead of Cassidy at the moment but Cassidy could go furhter with more time. Having said that with more game time this season FRC could kick on.
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Gotta think we’ll be announcing a visa signing in the next week or so. Last year we had signed Eze a month ago and signed James around this time next week.
The World Cup and not being in the Aus cup has probably slowed down things but definitely will be wanting to get the import attackers in soon to build some chemistry.
The World Cup and not being in the Aus cup has probably slowed down things but definitely will be wanting to get the import attackers in soon to build some chemistry.
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wilbaker wrote:
Gotta think we’ll be announcing a visa signing in the next week or so. Last year we had signed Eze a month ago and signed James around this time next week.
The World Cup and not being in the Aus cup has probably slowed down things but definitely will be wanting to get the import attackers in soon to build some chemistry.
Yes they will I think. They were not going to reveal a new men's team player the same day as the women's team player revealed today. So I hope tomorrow through to Friday the men's team will get 1 or 2 signed and then 3 or 4 next week. 🤞
They will want some new players ready for pre season match 1 soon.
They will want some new players ready for pre season match 1 soon.
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ballane wrote:
Dont forget its only relatively recently that they had confirmation of Rufers re-signing and would think until that happened they didnt want to commit which way their Visa signings were going to go.
Yes! That is why. Now I imagine they will want to have some more players to reveal end of this week and next week. The first pre season match will have to get organized and they are still lacking 3 preferred starters at least:
1 striker
1 attacking midfield
1 defensive/central midfield.
I imagine they wouldn't mind to have a substitute or 2 signed late, but the main leaders, they will be intensely working on that now, surely.
1 striker
1 attacking midfield
1 defensive/central midfield.
I imagine they wouldn't mind to have a substitute or 2 signed late, but the main leaders, they will be intensely working on that now, surely.
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Roa Conchie is probably not A League standard, not even sure he is A League bench standard as he offers little to change a game. Pretty damning that the most impact he has had at the club is saying a slur on the field 3/4 years ago.
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