Liverpool Thread - Premier League Champions* 2019/20 (Part 1)

 

Starting next week....(hopefully).

(even though he clearly wins the ball before being hacked by Alonso)...intent. However Bosingwa should get banned for that pathetic challenge at the end of the game when he blatantly kicks out in frustration.

 

Is right.

 

I never saw the Everton cup game, although a great flick from Torres to set up Stevie! Wigan game was disappointing at best. But this morning was superb. We created far better chances even before the sending off, although that defo helped us win. Torres...I love that man! Chelsea offered nothing up front...Malouda was awful, as was Kalou, Anelka and Drogba. They were marshalled well by our defence and didnt really get the ball enough thanks to Xabi (who is so class) and Monster. Great result. United are starting to look the business, but we just have to keep winning and then we'll see how it goes.

 

 With all the critism of Rafa...who would you bring in if we were to sack him? He's a great manager. This is new territory for a lot of our players, so we should be supporting the team.

 

YNWA

 

Actually I think I would.  I said when we lost at United that it was all over.  They've come from miles back to saunter to the front and have points and a game in hand.  Chelsea and Liverpool can't seem to win games consistently at the moment.  We've both had opportunities to pull away and blown it.  Hard to recover lost ground after that.  United look quality and keep winning those tight games that we keep drawing.  Ever the optimist, but I'm also a realist.  And of course Chelsea haven't beaten a big 4 team yet this season so don't deserve to be in contention.

 

Intent?  He was going for and won the ball.  It wasn't a 50/50 it was always Lampard's ball to win.  Alonso knew he wasn't going to get there, bottled it and went over the top and went down clutching his leg like a baby.  Even more bizarre was Riley was only five yards away and still got it wrong.  When an official gets those sort of call wrong (McCullum's dismissal last night is a case in point) they shouldn't be there.  And then to miss Bosingwa's act of lunacy at the end was ridiculous.  What was the lino thinking?  As a fan, you just despair when what little hope you have disappears down the tunnel because someone f*cked up. 

 

Is it me, or has the red card thing got out of hand?  Too many games are being decided by these split second decisions that five years ago wouldn't have even earned a booking.  Is the game any better for it?

 

 

 

Considering that, how the hell can Bosingwa boot Arbeloa (or was it Aurelio) in the back, right under both the ref and the linesman and not get as much as a warning?

Tottenham must think it's Christmas.

 

wow mate settle, just a friendly dig at possibly the worst 20 mil ever spent in football history. No need to get all immature and personal..but since you did, you should probably know that a) we all know you're stoked you finally won something and we're all very happy for you but there are actually other competitions as well and b) i think you should probably research how many of those other competitions your manager has won before you go making little comments like that:

let's consider some stats shall we?

 

FA Cup winners 2006

Community Shield winners 2006

Champions League winners 2005

Super Cup winners 2005

 

Premier league winners in 1997/1998

Premier league winners in 2001/2002

Premier league winners in 2003/2004

FA cup winners in 1997/1998

FA cup winners in 2001/2002

FA cup winners in 2002/2003 

FA cup winners in 2004/2005

Community shield winners in 1998

Community shield winners in 1999

Community shield winners in 2002

Community shield winners in 2004

 

hmmm, stats dont read pretty for Rafa vs Arsene

 

that is true, but i included every trophy either manager had won, and even though it is a sh*tty acolade, arsene has still won more.

 

and it's not really that bad because to win it you have to have won the premier league or fa cup as a qualifier..

 

He's also been in the job three times as long.

 

wow mate settle, just a friendly dig at possibly the worst 20 mil ever spent in football history. No need to get all immature and personal..but since you did, you should probably know that a) we all know you're stoked you finally won something and we're all very happy for you but there are actually other competitions as well and b) i think you should probably research how many of those other competitions your manager has won before you go making little comments like that:

let's consider some stats shall we?

 

FA Cup winners 2006

Community Shield winners 2006

Champions League winners 2005

Super Cup winners 2005

 

Premier league winners in 1997/1998

Premier league winners in 2001/2002

Premier league winners in 2003/2004

FA cup winners in 1997/1998

FA cup winners in 2001/2002

FA cup winners in 2002/2003 

FA cup winners in 2004/2005

Community shield winners in 1998

Community shield winners in 1999

Community shield winners in 2002

Community shield winners in 2004

 

hmmm, stats dont read pretty for Rafa vs Arsene



The dude was asking how many European Cups Arse had won. dont see too many of them there.

FA Cup winners 2006

Champions League winners 2005
La Liga winners 2002
La Liga winners 2004
UEFA Cup winners 2004

 

Premier league winners in 2001/2002

Premier league winners in 2003/2004

FA cup winners in 2001/2002

FA cup winners in 2002/2003 

FA cup winners in 2004/2005

Records since 2001/2002 Season. Bit fairer comparison

Win percentages Pretty similar to at time at English clubs both about 56-57%, Wegner is slightly higher.   Any way does it really matter? Both are top managers.

Happy Now

 

yes he was, and if you (can) read what i said then you will see that i said it is a pointless argument just saying how many european cups has arsene wenger won because we can turn around and say ok, how many premier leagues, fa cups and community shields has rafa won?

that's the point i was making, how stupid a point it was to make and then you've backed it up with an even stupider one.

 

and to the argument that arsene wenger has been there three times as long, again, El-Kun said "how many european cups has arsene wenger won, mate?" he didn't mention any time frame just toal number of titles so i went with that and pointed out that there are actually other competitions.

 

Is right. Rafa is only just getting the team to the level he wants. Wenger has had years to do it. Now, I'm not saying Wenger isn't a good manager...he does a fine job. But I just think you could easily point to Chelsea for bigger flops, United too. We didnt even lose that much money considering how badly he did.

 

Rafa won the European Cup with players like Biscan and Traore. We had Gerrard and Carragher and Alonso injured for long periods of the season.

 

You see, thats what I'm saying. Arsenal haven't got much money, but they've got a team and a system that Wenger has been working on for years. Thats established now. Rafa has had to come in and completely reshuffle the place- the scouting, youth teams, reserve teams... He's done a whole lot. He's also had to buy stop gaps- say Momo before we replace him with a better player in Mascherano. Just out of interest, is that net spending or just what we paid?

 

But anyway, they're both good managers. I like Rafa more, and you like Arsene. Fair enough. I just like to defend the best manager we've had since Dalglish and the amount of (unfair) critisim he gets is mad. People really hate him and I can't work out why.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You just wouldn't let it lie, would ya.

 

*yawn*

 

Haha. I was too young, but I've heard many stories of it. About how we beat you in the '86 final too!

 

Anyway, thats what I'm saying. Wenger has done it, for sure. But my point was, he's done that and now he has had more years than Rafa to build on the foundations he laid for his style of management- hence why he has won more trophies. Rafa is only just getting to that stage now. As for the war chest, we could very possibly be bankrupt soon, but we havent spent nearly as much as Chelsea and havent had the years to build that United has. Which is why United and Chelsea have dominated the League in recent years.

Instead they are playing a Chelsea Liverpool replay??

Why wouldn't this game be screening on Sky, it's a tad important....?

because sky dont have the Asia/pacific rights to braodcast fa cup.

Not the same watching a live score update website....

watch it live if you want to. streaming owns football now.