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Liverpool Thread - Premier League Champions* 2019/20

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27 Jul 12:30
IF we do, surely it's a £100m sale given current prices?! He's only 25, current contract runs until end of 2022 and one of the best mids in the Prem?

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

27 Jul 23:51
I'll be gutted if we sell Coutinho. I suspect (hope?) there will be an agreement that he stays another year and then is allowed to leave next summer. Would love to keep him forever but it's hard to say no to Barca and staying another year seems the right compromise imo
28 Jul 01:03

Don't sell him. Barca are c*nts when it comes to transfers. The amount of tapping up they do is insane. If he really wants to go flick him to Madrid just to spite them. Unfortunately I realise it doesn't really work like this, but f*ck Barca.

28 Jul 01:49

Seriously f*ck Barca. Make them pay 200m like they would anyone else.

28 Jul 02:02

20 Legend wrote:

Seriously f*ck Barca. Make them pay 200m like they would anyone else.

Offer them a Neymar swap? Even a Suarez swap would soften the blow.

28 Jul 08:43

LeighboNZ wrote:
IF we do, surely it's a £100m sale given current prices?!

He's only 25, current contract runs until end of 2022 and one of the best mids in the Prem?

Yea i reckon 100m easy given those factors, prices are nuts now

You guys have all the power on this one, owners will take flak if he goes cheap

28 Jul 09:25

Have heard yarns of a deal involving cash and Rakitic and other shark but hopefully everyone involved just stick to their guns and he's happy with that too. Find out soon I guess but will be pretty gutted if he goes.

29 Jul 02:45 · edited 29 Jul 02:47 · History

brumbys wrote:

20 Legend wrote:

Seriously f*ck Barca. Make them pay 200m like they would anyone else.

Offer them a Neymar swap? Even a Suarez swap would soften the blow.

Call me crazy but if I was building a team from a blank piece of paper I would take Coutinho before I took Neymar.

02 Aug 03:54

I know it's preseason and not to read too much into it and blah blah but get in! Good stuff against Bayern!

Mane's hold up then dink through to Moreno for the second goal...... phoar!

04 Aug 22:43

Drawn to play Hoffenheim in the CL qualifiers, should be interesting. They were unbeaten at home in the Bundesliga last season.

Lallana out for two months with an injury picked up in Germany.

08 Aug 09:38
Will we see Coutinho remain at the club?
08 Aug 20:59

Thats a hard one. Most of the he's gone stories are coming from Spain. Nothing that I've seen from "reputable sources" , yet.

What I will say that if he goes now , I'm done with this club. I've been a fan for over 40 years , my Hillsborough story is known. But If they sell Coutinho now, after Klopp coming out and  saying he isn't for sale, that tells me the owners have no ambition to win anything. Yes , I get the fact that it's a crap load of money. BUT you don't win championships by selling your best players. Yes , we have other competent midfielders but they are all a bit the same- especially with Lallana out , I see little creativity in the critical areas. And I absolutely don't trust the club to spend any fee they may get for Cout wisely. Yes , it's Barcelona. And IF Cout wants to go , negotiate with him to go next year , get another year out of him.They've buggered up another transfer window , but no surprise. I can live with that. But if they sell Coutinho now , they're telling me they don't give a shark about winning the EPL this year , or ever. LFC will be seen as a stepping stone club , not a destination club.

Prediction- if Cout goes , we won't get top 4 this year. And under the current owners , LFC will not ever win the EPL. I won't care- I won't be watching.

09 Aug 21:54
Yeah I'd be gutted too. Reports coming out yesterday made it sound like the deal was good as done but Liverpool holding firm today. They better bloody stay firm. To spend the entire summer trying and failing to pressure Southampton and Leipzig to release a player only to buckle the moment someone comes for one of ours would make us look like a complete laughing stock.
10 Aug 11:33

Jazzman wrote:

Thats a hard one. Most of the he's gone stories are coming from Spain. Nothing that I've seen from "reputable sources" , yet.

What I will say that if he goes now , I'm done with this club. I've been a fan for over 40 years , my Hillsborough story is known. But If they sell Coutinho now, after Klopp coming out and  saying he isn't for sale, that tells me the owners have no ambition to win anything. Yes , I get the fact that it's a crap load of money. BUT you don't win championships by selling your best players. Yes , we have other competent midfielders but they are all a bit the same- especially with Lallana out , I see little creativity in the critical areas. And I absolutely don't trust the club to spend any fee they may get for Cout wisely. Yes , it's Barcelona. And IF Cout wants to go , negotiate with him to go next year , get another year out of him.They've buggered up another transfer window , but no surprise. I can live with that. But if they sell Coutinho now , they're telling me they don't give a shark about winning the EPL this year , or ever. LFC will be seen as a stepping stone club , not a destination club.

Prediction- if Cout goes , we won't get top 4 this year. And under the current owners , LFC will not ever win the EPL. I won't care- I won't be watching.

Sorry, but if Real or Madrid come in that hard for a player, there aren't many clubs with the financial clout to bat them off. If the player has had his head turned as well, then why keep him?

a.haak

11 Aug 09:05
Fenway Sports Group just released a statement - "We wish to offer clarity as regards our position on a possible transfer of Philippe Coutinho. The club’s definitive stance is that no offers for Philippe will be considered and he will remain a member of Liverpool Football Club when the summer window closes." That sounds pretty definitive, I'm feeling a lot more reassured now!
11 Aug 15:51

Fitzy wrote:
Fenway Sports Group just released a statement - "We wish to offer clarity as regards our position on a possible transfer of Philippe Coutinho. The club’s definitive stance is that no offers for Philippe will be considered and he will remain a member of Liverpool Football Club when the summer window closes."

That sounds pretty definitive, I'm feeling a lot more reassured now!

What about this....

- FSG really do want to sell as its good business but don't want to face the wrath of the fans  

- Strongly worded statement as above = reassured/happy fans

- Coutinho hands in transfer request and/or maybe will go on strike after taking advice by John Aldridge.

"Players and their agents hold all the power these days and if he says he won’t kick another ball for Southampton and demands a move, it will happen".....Ooops, my bad, wrong player ;-)

- Club "very reluctantly" agrees to sell as no point keeping an unhappy player = fans understand & accept it & FSG in the clear? 

Its unlikely Coutinho is going to see out his contract (unless he receives some "gentle persuasion" from the chaps who had a friendly word with Gerrard...allegedly!) so, if an expensive asset wants out & may well under perform, cause club disharmony etc,  then unpalatable as it is in terms of player power,not honouring contracts etc is the "best" decision to get rid ? 

11 Aug 22:17
I don't buy the idea that if they don't let him go now he'll throw his toys and be disruptive all season. He might not like it, but if he has a terrible season he won't be going anywhere next summer, not to Russia and definitely not to Barcelona. He might be a bit upset for the next few weeks but he'll get over it. I think FSG still have all the power.
11 Aug 22:39

except that the prick has now put in a transfer request, and allegedly has had a breakdown in relations with Klopp. I'm sure that's news to the club and to Klopp

Fudge him

11 Aug 23:46

Set a stupidly high price. Coutinho is signed till 2022. Liverpool can afford to bench him for a year just to prove a point.

12 Aug 12:25

down 2-1 at half time. Need to tighten at the back, Phoenix quality defending.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

12 Aug 22:17

Mane to have a 25+ goal season before Real Madrid swoop him up to replace Benzema ??

13 Aug 00:50

Picking straight back up where we left off last season..... moments of sweet football mixed with shambles at the back. Strap in, gonna be a long season again!

13 Aug 23:33
I can't face another season like this?
16 Aug 00:38

Ripper of a freekick from the young fella this morning! Bit worrying again to concede late but a win away is good regardless.

16 Aug 06:13
Yeah stands us in good stead for leg 2, fingers crossed we don't bottle it from here. Would have taken a 2-1 win before kickoff for sure though.
16 Aug 06:48

Watched the extended highlights, plenty of chances for both teams. One of the most poorly taken pens I've seen for awhile too. Looked like he attempted a Panenka but didn't really chip it, coach killer!

There will definitely be goals in the home leg but they'll have to score at least twice so fingers crossed we can get the job done.

17 Aug 06:27
Rumors... Keita is in Liverpool shopping for houses VvD will go ahead Club is waiting to confirm CL group stage entry before going cash crazy.

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

17 Aug 09:07

Not holding my breath but both are quite necessary I think. Also.... see where Moreno was when Lovren got nutsed then conceded the pen? Yeah about halfway.

18 Aug 05:52

LeighboNZ wrote:
Rumors...

Keita is in Liverpool shopping for houses VvD will go ahead

Club is waiting to confirm CL group stage entry before going cash crazy.

You'll probably spunk 90 million on Jonjoe Kenny.

Three for me, and two for them.

20 Aug 04:21

Robertson>>>>>>>>>>Moreno

That is all.

23 Aug 09:58
Coutinho is ill....hope he feels better soon ? probably from midnight 31 August
23 Aug 20:39

Yes a clear case of waitingforatransferitis. Quite common in Europe at this time of year!

Job done this morning. Plenty of goals and giving up plenty of chances so pretty standard really!

23 Aug 20:44

Draw for the groups is tomorrow, exciting!!!

23 Aug 22:47
Bloody good stuff! Hoping those rumours are true about splashing the cash now that we've qualified. Can't wait for the draw overnight, nothing beats champions league football!
24 Aug 03:07

Can's 2nd, a beauty of a team goal

Hopefully you're all tired out for the weekend ;)

24 Aug 03:57

Yeah that was an absolute gem. Sullied slightly by giving away a real soft one almost straight after.

Should be an interesting game on monday morning, I'm going out on a limb and predicting goals! 

24 Aug 22:12

Pretty sweet draw for the Champions League!

Sevilla, Spartak Moscow and Maribor from Slovenia. Chance for a bit of revenge for the Europa final last year and all!

25 Aug 10:12
Dembele to Barca..... please let that be the end of the Coutinho drama
27 Aug 16:36

Hilarious! 

27 Aug 17:56
Wow!!!