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great result for the mighty Coastal
fantastic return to the top flight
2nd place still a go

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foal30 wrote:
great result for the mighty Coastalfantastic return to the top flight2nd place still a go


Yep, that was so sweet. Probably the best winning performance from the boys all season. Looking pretty good for next year. How on earth did Bays end up so far ahead in the league? Must be the luckiest team around.

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Ronaldoknow wrote:
foal30 wrote:
great result for the mighty Coastalfantastic return to the top flight2nd place still a go


Yep, that was so sweet. Probably the best winning performance from the boys all season. Looking pretty good for next year. How on earth did Bays end up so far ahead in the league? Must be the luckiest team around.
Firepower, nothing more, if you can sop their strikers tgetting the ball then the midfield and defence is pretty weak when under pressure. Oh yeah take you're chances as well. Well done coastal. My team tech starting to capitulate, heard they had 5 out but still no excuses. Nomads v Utd must be the game to watch now, have mates in both teams but think I would have to cheer for Nomads plus they must be favourites with all the momentum at the moment.
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I'll cheer on Nomads for the fact they had no chance a month ago and now look at them! With a 2 goal goal difference advantage to Utd, which would decrease if not disappear to a Nomads win, how random would it be if they ended up on the same points and GD! What would happen then?

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scousemaori8 wrote:
My team tech starting to capitulate, heard they had 5 out but still no excuses.

They did and had players who left the reserves game to play for the 1sts. The Tech Reserves drew 3-3 against league winners Bays after leading 2-1 and 3-2. Two 15 year old tech lads made their Reserves debut. Bays were lucky to get the draw in the end after the Tech keeper had a shot covered but fumbled to allow Bays tap in.

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Remaining Fixtures
 

Date                        Home-Team          Away-Team           
06/08/2011             Nelson Suburbs      Western                    
06/08/2011             Chch United            Ferrymead Bays

06/08/2011             Coastal Spirit         Nomads 

06/08/2011             Woolston Tech       Halswell 

13/08/2011             Halswell                  Coastal Spirit       

13/08/2011             Ferrymead Bays     Western                   
13/08/2011             Woolston Tech       Nelson Suburbs  

13/08/2011             Nomads                  Chch United    

20/08/2011             Nelson Suburbs      Ferrymead Bays        
20/08/2011             Chch United            Halswell                    
20/08/2011             Coastal Spirit         Woolston Tech       
20/08/2011             Western                  Nomads                                                              

 
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VimFuego wrote:
I'll cheer on Nomads for the fact they had no chance a month ago and now look at them! With a 2 goal goal difference advantage to Utd, which would decrease if not disappear to a Nomads win, how random would it be if they ended up on the same points and GD! What would happen then?
 
Only thing I can find in the Mainland Rules, (which is referring to top of the table - but assume applies to all placings) is as follows:
 

4. At the conclusion of any Mainland Football competition, where two or more teams are tied on point�s goal difference will be used to separate the teams. If still tied, the team with the most goals for shall be the winner. If still tied the League winner shall be shared.

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AllWhites82 wrote:
VimFuego wrote:
I'll cheer on Nomads for the fact they had no chance a month ago and now look at them! With a 2 goal goal difference advantage to Utd, which would decrease if not disappear to a Nomads win, how random would it be if they ended up on the same points and GD! What would happen then?


Only thing I can find in the Mainland Rules, (which is referring to top of the table - but assume applies to all placings)�is as follows:

4. At the conclusion of any Mainland Football competition, where two or more teams are tied on point�s goal difference will be used to separate the teams. If still tied, the team with the most goals for shall be the winner. If still tied the League winner shall be shared.


So following on from that it means they will both finish bottom and both be relegated!

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The last time Nomads and United met (6 games ago) United prevailed 2-1. In the subsequent 5 games United have gone into a tail spin, drawing only 2 games and scoring only 1 goal while Nomads in the same period have won 4 (defeating Western, Nelson, Halswell and Tech) scoring 8 and conceding 6. And they can still win the Hurley Shield. Would be the great escape. They may not even have to beat United in a fortnight to get out of jail the way United are folding.

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Yes more interest in the bottom of the table now. The key question seems to be can ChCh United pick up up any more points in their final three games and as Ronaldoknow has stated the recent results would seem to point to this being unlikely.

Looking back on the MPL, (before this season) there have been three seasons 2003, 2009 and 2010 were the wooden spoon was not decided until the final round and in all cases the team that went into the final game in last place still finished at the bottom, Cashmere Wanderers in 2003, Ferrymead Bays in 2009 and Burnside last year. 
AllWhites822011-07-31 15:29:32
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Watched Coastal beat Halswell 2-0 in the Rita Fitz cup this arvo, tight game and missed all the goals having arrived late. Was there any further news on Tech defaulting the week before? Or forgotten about?

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VimFuego wrote:
Watched Coastal beat Halswell 2-0 in the Reta Fitz cup this arvo, tight game and missed all the goals having arrived late. Was there any further news on Tech defaulting the week before? Or forgotten about?


Another good win for the girls and the club. Can anyone explain to me how the draw works from here? Sporting Pulse page for this is a nightmare?

The Tech default seems to have become a non-issue even though all clubs were notified of the draw change for the 23rd July on the 05th of July. Tech then notified Mainland of possible further changes that would have accommodated their request to defer the game from this date, with the support of Coastal. It looks as though Mainland have refused to accept further changes and forced Tech to accept the game on the 23rd. Tech have then defaulted but Mainland so far appear to have taken no further action. Farcical and symptomatic of the poor approach some people take to the women's game in the Mainland region.Ronaldoknow2011-07-31 18:35:42

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Ronaldoknow wrote:
VimFuego wrote:
Watched Coastal beat Halswell 2-0 in the Reta Fitz cup this arvo, tight game and missed all the goals having arrived late. Was there any further news on Tech defaulting the week before? Or forgotten about?


Another good win for the girls and the club. Can anyone explain to me how the draw works from here? Sporting Pulse page for this is a nightmare?

The Tech default seems to have become a non-issue even though all clubs were notified of the draw change for the 23rd July on the 05th of July. Tech then notified Mainland of possible further changes that would have accommodated their request to defer the game from this date, with the support of Coastal. It looks as though Mainland have refused to accept further changes and forced Tech to accept the game on the 23rd. Tech have then defaulted but Mainland so far appear to have taken no further action. Farcical and symptomatic of the poor approach some people take to the women's game in the Mainland region.


Sets a precident for future defaults I guess...let the fun continue


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[Another good win for the girls and the club. Can anyone explain to me how the draw works from here? Sporting Pulse page for this is a nightmare? 

If it is like the English Cup a draw will be made by Mainland for the semi-finals for the Reta Fitzpatrick Cup, the Sporting Pulse does not allow for 'open' cup draws so unsure why they keep using it.  AllWhites822011-07-31 22:53:32
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gings wrote:

Ronaldoknow wrote:
VimFuego wrote:
Watched Coastal beat Halswell 2-0 in the Reta Fitz cup this arvo, tight game and missed all the goals having arrived late. Was there any further news on Tech defaulting the week before? Or forgotten about?


Another good win for the girls and the club. Can anyone explain to me how the draw works from here? Sporting Pulse page for this is a nightmare?

The Tech default seems to have become a non-issue even though all clubs were notified of the draw change for the 23rd July on the 05th of July. Tech then notified Mainland of possible further changes that would have accommodated their request to defer the game from this date, with the support of Coastal. It looks as though Mainland have refused to accept further changes and forced Tech to accept the game on the 23rd. Tech have then defaulted but Mainland so far appear to have taken no further action. Farcical and symptomatic of the poor approach some people take to the women's game in the Mainland region.
Sets a precident for future defaults I guess...let the fun continue


Twice now we have seen defaults at the highest level (Parklands v Western in the Englich Cup and Tech v Western in the WMPL). Can't remember it ever happening before and still no action from Mainland ....... dismal. Not a good look.

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Twice now we have seen defaults at the highest level (Parklands v Western in the Englich Cup and Tech v Western in the WMPL). Can't remember it ever happening before and still no action from Mainland ....... dismal. Not a good look.[/QUOTE]
 
Happened in the Women's PFL three or four season ago when Burnside defaulted twice in the same season.
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Quoted the wrong rule (General Rules rather than those covering the Mainland PFL)  earlier in the tread about the relegation. Rule pasted below. 
 
1.2 Team�s accumulated points shall govern all promotion and/or relegation for each season, or in
the case of a tie, goal difference and if still level, the higher number of goals scored, shall be the
deciding factors. Teams scores head to head during the MPFL season shall count, If still level the
team with the least Red cards accumulated in the current season will be the deciding factor, If
League winners are still level the League will be shared. If last placed teams are still level after the above criteria, one (1) game between the teams shall be played to decide who is relegated.
 
So the scores head to head may come into effect, unsure if this means results or the score.
 
The two previous results this season are:
Chch United 2 Nomads 0
Nomads 1 ChCh United 2
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I'd say it'd be aggregate score.
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timmymadden wrote:
I'd say it'd be aggregate score.
 
Hopefully it will not come to that anyway. 
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Obviously it wont happen in this case, but it'd be a tragic set of circumstances if it came down to a playoff for last place..
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Well the game next wknd vs each other is pretty much that. Then it could come down to the last game and who is going to lose by the least!

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Just looking at the Japan Cup results (12th grade Mainland region tournament over the hols). Any idea why FC2011 had a team in it when it seems it is Mid Canty, West Coast, Canty etc? Seems strange that kids from around town tried out to get into the Canty teams and then a Chch team is entered. Logical reason out there surely.

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VimFuego wrote:
Well the game next wknd vs each other is pretty much that. Then it could come down to the last game and who is going to lose by the least!
 
On current form Nomads could take points off both Coastal and Western.
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No chance against Coastal. We scored 4 against the top of the table, imagine what we'll do to the bottom! Probably another 1-0 win like the last two times we've played them...

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VimFuego wrote:
Just looking at the Japan Cup results (12th grade Mainland region tournament over the hols). Any idea why FC2011 had a team in it when it seems it is Mid Canty, West Coast, Canty etc? Seems strange that kids from around town tried out to get into the Canty teams and then a Chch team is entered. Logical reason out there surely.


That is simply retarded....granted I think at south islands etc a chch east/west split would be logical as opposed to the current system, but a club team at these kind of events? hmmmm strange. Only logical reason I can think of is it an invitational competition.


EDIT: https://www.footballsouth.co.nz/index.php?id=44&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=618&tx_ttnews[backPid]=1&cHash=cc0ec1dcc4

looks like they were invited
gings2011-08-01 23:48:43


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could go on epic here but must resist

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Go for it Foal - what else is a forum for?

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I see no mention of a Japanese team in the tournament. maybe that's why FC2011 got invited? Also Tsetso Ivanov (FC2011 Football Development Manager) and Peter Roberts (Mid Canterbury FDM) both coach in Mens Div1, wouldn't be surprised if FC2011's involvement was discussed at an aftermatch, don't believe there is anything sinister or untoward here. Or am I wrong Foal?

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Last year "Japan Cup" didn't happen (heard Mid Canty sent a team to Japan?). A 12th grade football 'FESTIVAL' was hosted by Waimak. This year, never saw any team selection on the Mainland website, but I heard feedback that they were very PC and didn't select an A and B team (but i think that is policy for non-national tournaments - including SI). FC20 probably have about 100 x 12 year olds playing so if its a festival, rather than a regional representative tournament, no biggie?

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Last year "Japan Cup" didn't happen (heard Mid Canty sent a team to Japan?). A 12th grade football 'FESTIVAL' was hosted by Waimak. This year, never saw any team selection on the Mainland website, but I heard feedback that they were very PC and didn't select an A and B team (but i think that is policy for non-national tournaments - including SI). FC20 probably have about 100 x 12 year olds playing so if its a festival, rather than a regional representative tournament, no biggie?


Might be no biggie, just looks funny dunnit?

The trials were only however open to previous Canty Reps from last years trials. Why is it called a Japan Cup anyways?

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VimFuego wrote:
No chance against Coastal. We scored 4 against the top of the table, imagine what we'll do to the bottom! Probably another 1-0 win like the last two times we've played them...
Does'nt mean nothing on the day, Nomads if the form book anything to go by are probably playing a lot better than when you guys met previously and they may have more riding on it.
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VimFuego wrote:
Last year "Japan Cup" didn't happen (heard Mid Canty sent a team to Japan?). A 12th grade football 'FESTIVAL' was hosted by Waimak. This year, never saw any team selection on the Mainland website, but I heard feedback that they were very PC and didn't select an A and B team (but i think that is policy for non-national tournaments - including SI). FC20 probably have about 100 x 12 year olds playing so if its a festival, rather than a regional representative tournament, no biggie?


Might be no biggie, just looks funny dunnit?

The trials were only however open to previous Canty Reps from last years trials. Why is it called a Japan Cup anyways?


Thats the bit that I'm none to impressed with, I know its only an invitational tournie but why not treat it as build up to SI Champs? Only opening it to last years reps seems to be a bit wrong and puts a glass ceiling in place. Its things like this that make some players/coaches/clubs wonder if its worth sending players to 'trials'.
gings2011-08-03 14:22:59


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Japan Cup name - guessing its 'cos a team from Japan entered, or it's some sort of Ashvegas sister-city thing? Come on in AshVegas people and put the facts straight before wild speculation takes over. On this forum?

Having trials only open to last year's teams goes against Mainland's own policy on player development - they all develop at different rates and ages etc. Who knows, probably done for convenience sake but with all those employees, surely they can get their A into G. Agree, not a good look.

Any point in starting a Mainland Juniors thread or are 'Premier League' viewers happy to read about the really important stuff (like trials for 12 year olds - don't take that the wrong way) - on this thread?

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Japan Cup name - guessing its 'cos a team from Japan entered, or it's some sort of Ashvegas sister-city thing? Come on in AshVegas people and put the facts straight before wild speculation takes over. On this forum? [/QUOTE]

I'm not from Ashburton, but this piece in the Guardian explains the absence of Japanese teams this year due to Japanese earthquakes and tsunami (the disaster, not the U-19 tournament):
https://www.ashburtonguardian.co.nz/news/sports-news/4646-tourney-goes-on-despite-japans-no-show.html

and this item from Mid Canterbury football:
https://www.midcanterburyfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=279
[QUOTE]...the Japan/New Zealand tournament in Ashburton which attracts three teams from Japan and thirteen teams from around the South Island.  Every second year the Mid Canterbury team travels to Japan to play.


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Hey 12 year old tournies are almost relevant to the MPL. Player progression inall.

This thread has gone on all sorts of directions in the past I don't mind a CHCH thread as we get to see a whole slice of football that we may not know about.

Now, about that Masters Div 4 league...

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Big game in Pressies A this weekend. Halswell v Coastal, winner makes the final (or Halswell make it if it's a draw, which it wont be) Hawks back into Div 6 next year after 5 years of missery in Pressies grades
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timmymadden wrote:
Big game in Pressies A this weekend. Halswell v Coastal, winner makes the final (or Halswell make it if it's a draw, which it wont be) Hawks back into Div 6 next year after 5 years of missery in Pressies grades


Where we have another Coastal team of champions lying in wait haha!

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And my game in Masters 4 this week is against a bunch of w!@#kers who seem to think that charging into a GK at every opportunity is OK - but we still drew playing with 10 men against them last time out :)

Seriously, what is the point of Masters 3, 4 and +45? 35 teams of old crocks re-living past glories; instead of attending a Premier League game. If my maths is right +500 old farts could attend 4 MPL games each Saturday arvo - that would increase atmosphere, club coffers and surely lead to more informed forum debate.

So lads, are we prepared to give up our Masters teams to support our young guns?

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No chance Stretford, I would'nt watch me if you payed me and I'm my biggest fan. When I finally give up the MPL it will be to relive past glories on bobbly fields with moany old farts similer to me, infact they will probably have to bury me with my boots on.
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And my game in Masters 4 this week is against a bunch of w!@#kers who seem to think that charging into a GK at every opportunity is OK - but we still drew playing with 10 men against them last time out :)

Seriously, what is the point of Masters 3, 4 and +45? 35 teams of old crocks re-living past glories; instead of attending a Premier League game. If my maths is right +500 old farts could attend 4 MPL games each Saturday arvo - that would increase atmosphere, club coffers and surely lead to more informed forum debate.

So lads, are we prepared to give up our Masters teams to support our young guns?


Nice in theory but will never happen. They love the game and should be encouraged to continue with it (500 x whatever mainland charges them = big money if ya wanna look at it that way).

If we had the facilities in chch I'd like to see the schoolboys comp played friday nights under lights, a true premier competition with all the best players playing for their schools 1st XI (look at the press cup for rugby, its an awesome comp with huge support)

Saturday morning would be junior club competitions, saturday arvo senior comps div 2 down to masters and Sunday would be Div 1, PDL & MPL.

By having the above system everybody wins...schools get all their best players, clubs keep their kids in junior comps and the premier competitions in senior footy get the centre stage with all members of the club outside of those squads able to come down and support.

I do agree with the bit you say about needing to improve the atmosphere/crowd numbers at top flight footy in town


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