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I admire Bill Cowen for telling it as he sees it and he is right facilities at the reigning champions ground are a joke. Other clubs (including Coastal) aren't much better and must improve. I think his point is as the governing body what have Mainland done to assist clubs to maintain previous high standards following the earthquake? Apart from pillaging the FIFA and CEAT funds themselves at the expense of clubs to recover QE2 and get new lighting and an artificial at Avonhead sweet fa. As a governing body they should have taken and facilitated an overall approach to recovery much like cricket, hockey and rugby did but this didn't happen. Hence individual clubs got active and had to pursue their own agendas, some more successfully than others. Seems to be those that are reliant on council grounds like Bays and Coastal in the hardest hit areas have been dropped in it. So once again club engagement takes a backward step.

The AGM for Mainland is due in a couple of weeks and their annual report has just been released. A wages bill of $800k and reserves of $800k takes some justification - are players and supporters in the city getting value for money here or pillaged for all they are worth? We keep getting hit with the same old story of poor performance on the park, no national age group reps etc etc. When Mike Coggan took up the CEO role at Mainland, they were in dire financial straits. Mike set out to turn that around and build a reserve fund equivalent to 6 months expenditure, an area that he has done extremely well in. In the mean time we have seen the wages bill double not to mention many other costs mostly funded by increased fees and levies - will this now ease as the target has been met? Their was talk of "giving back" to the code at last years AGM which we have yet to see. Should be an interesting meeting.

On another note Bill often talks about the standard of the MPL and the need for a South Island league, an idea that has support of most ChCh and at least 3 Dunedin clubs but not their federation (apparently). This is to try and elevate the number of higher intensity quality games available to our better teams, an admirable idea. 1998 was the last year we had a full travelling Sth Island league and I agree it is time it was reinstated. 4 teams from ChCh, 3 from Dunners with Nelson as well would be a real fillip for the game here and commit clubs to a serious level of competition. It would also turn our under achieving clubs back into either ambitious up comers or simply feeders for the 4 who strive to achieve at a higher level. No relegation for the first 3 years to reflect the level of commitment required to get a team on the park and at least half the travel costs funded by the Federation. I see that as a better use of the $50 - $80k of annual surpluses Mainland currently generate. A Sth Island league does 2 things at the same time - it lifts the quality of the game and the profile - bring it on. And it needs to happen in 2014, none of this "we can't change anything for 2 years" approach. The Southern League went into hiatus as a full travelling league as a response to the fuel crisis (does anyone remember that?) nearly 20 years ago. We've been arguing about how to improve the quality of the local league ever since. Various things have been tried, mainly through the ramping up of junior training programmes, split Norhtern/Southern zones, quality control standards, end of season play off's etc whilst avoiding the obvious. Time for Mainland to show some leadership, grow some balls and get on with governance of the game. They should be right behind this.

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Pretty ballsy to write it up in the match programme, without seeing the write up I cant really say much more - any online copy?


Southern league is a good idea, but will it cause more drama than its worth?


How do you pick who makes it? geographically? application based on key criteria? based on this seasons results? Who decides the criteria or selects the teams? What happens to the remaining teams?


I can smell a few lawsuits coming if certain clubs dont make the cut.


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gings wrote:

Pretty ballsy to write it up in the match programme, without seeing the write up I cant really say much more - any online copy?


Southern league is a good idea, but will it cause more drama than its worth?


How do you pick who makes it? geographically? application based on key criteria? based on this seasons results? Who decides the criteria or selects the teams? What happens to the remaining teams?


I can smell a few lawsuits coming if certain clubs dont make the cut.

Don't expect the SI league to happen any time in the next 3 years.

Entry criteria would have to be on the finishing positions of the league at end of MPL rounds then clubs having the right to play or not.

Cost would still be a problem for some clubs unless a travel fund ex Mainland was used.

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Scottie Rd wrote:
gings wrote:

Pretty ballsy to write it up in the match programme, without seeing the write up I cant really say much more - any online copy?


Southern league is a good idea, but will it cause more drama than its worth?


How do you pick who makes it? geographically? application based on key criteria? based on this seasons results? Who decides the criteria or selects the teams? What happens to the remaining teams?


I can smell a few lawsuits coming if certain clubs dont make the cut.

Don't expect the SI league to happen any time in the next 3 years.

Entry criteria would have to be on the finishing positions of the league at end of MPL rounds then clubs having the right to play or not.

Cost would still be a problem for some clubs unless a travel fund ex Mainland was used.

Why would entry criteria have to be based on the finishing positions? It's a new competition, clubs should have to apply with several criteria needing to be met surely? If cost is an issue for some clubs then surely they don't enter? I'm sure it would be an issue for all clubs but do we want to see an improved standard of football in the city in the very near future or not? Let's make it happen instead of waiting for it to happen. Putting barriers in place before we take steps to get it off the ground is so symptomatic of the approach taken over the last 20 years. Why oh why do we accept defeat before we even start? Progress, not perfection. Let's do it.

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Here's the article by Bill Cowen (abridged - taken out 1st 4 and final paragraphs)

"My last article strongly criticised Mainland Football and its poor leadership and after visiting Barnett Park for our MPL match with Bays here is some more criticism and it does have a bit to do with the result. The presentation of Barnett Park was a disgrace for out Premier Men's competition - how the best players are expected to perform on a bumpy, inconsistently cut, poorly marked paddock like that is beyond reason. On top of that - no ball boys and non compliant showers. I am well aware that we have had earthquakes but that is the some for all of us - this game should simply not have been played. So standards obviously not too important in that regard as far as Mainland and indeed referees are concerned - nothing really matters ....

Three weeks ago I reported on a summit called by Mainland regarding the Senior game - what has happened about that - exactly the same as the above - nothing. This meeting as I advised was facilitated b Hockey's excellent Pat Barwick who I have since corresponded with and she shares the view that excellence and winning do matter as she neatly put it "Sport is about competition - winning and losing. Sport at the top is not recreation it is serious competition". Does that conviction from a proud Cantabrian sound like nothing really matters?

Mainland who represent a once proud Canterbury region do not deliver excellence except in KPI's reported in their latest Annual Reports such as record amounts of money collection and storage and a staggering $800,000 plus wage bill which is fine by me if excellent quality is delivered - but it is not. I ama a life member of mainland Football and will attend the AGM enthusiastically!"

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Don't expect the SI league to happen any time in the next 3 years.

Entry criteria would have to be on the finishing positions of the league at end of MPL rounds then clubs having the right to play or not.

Cost would still be a problem for some clubs unless a travel fund ex Mainland was used.

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Why on earth wait 3 years? Sounds too much like the Rebuild to me.

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Don't expect the SI league to happen any time in the next 3 years.

Entry criteria would have to be on the finishing positions of the league at end of MPL rounds then clubs having the right to play or not.

Cost would still be a problem for some clubs unless a travel fund ex Mainland was used.

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Why on earth wait 3 years? Sounds too much like the Rebuild to me.


So, what without being nasty have you done to get it off the ground?

Simple logic says it will not be before then. If it does happen before then I will be very pleased.

Are we talking about a full on league or a 4 team play offs a previous.

I'm meaning a comp with eight or ten teams over 2 rounds.

How long have we waited for Mainland Football to get together with FootballSouth and get a league up and or in the planning stage.

Well how about fiour years already since I [Bill knows my veiws, but these may not be a club view anymore] and others at a Mainland/Club meeting at a season review stated it needed to be done ASAP.

So tell me how close are we to getting a meeting with MPL and SPL clubs in the same room to go over any format details.

Football clubs in Dunedin see themselves being better than those in Chch with one year [last season] being the small hiccup.

Roll on Chatham Cup then.

I think I did more two weekends ago when in Dunedin for a round of the National Rally Champs than has been done in the last two years. Went to two clubs on the Saturday night and 1 not interested [bottom half of SPL at present but a young team] and 1 would be in again the cost and how it would work is the important part. 

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Ronaldoknow wrote:

Here's the article by Bill Cowen (abridged - taken out 1st 4 and final paragraphs)

"My last article strongly criticised Mainland Football and its poor leadership and after visiting Barnett Park for our MPL match with Bays here is some more criticism and it does have a bit to do with the result. The presentation of Barnett Park was a disgrace for out Premier Men's competition - how the best players are expected to perform on a bumpy, inconsistently cut, poorly marked paddock like that is beyond reason.


It's easy to criticise when your own ground is not under CCC control; but Bill's main point about Mainland's sway with council is valid. I suspect a lot of it, like the Southern league talk, comes down to lack of vision & will at federation level and CCC having a few other priorities around town at present.

Just on grounds & facilities - I've heard that Waimak hope to have an artificial turf in for next season - at Kendall (Waimak district council have a few less issues to deal with than CCC, so that must help); and the new indoor courts & clubrooms will be at Maria Andrews in 2-3 years.

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Scottie Rd wrote:

Don't expect the SI league to happen any time in the next 3 years.

Entry criteria would have to be on the finishing positions of the league at end of MPL rounds then clubs having the right to play or not.

Cost would still be a problem for some clubs unless a travel fund ex Mainland was used.

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Why on earth wait 3 years? Sounds too much like the Rebuild to me.


So, what without being nasty have you done to get it off the ground?

Simple logic says it will not be before then. If it does happen before then I will be very pleased.

Are we talking about a full on league or a 4 team play offs a previous.

I'm meaning a comp with eight or ten teams over 2 rounds.

How long have we waited for Mainland Football to get together with FootballSouth and get a league up and or in the planning stage.

Well how about fiour years already since I [Bill knows my veiws, but these may not be a club view anymore] and others at a Mainland/Club meeting at a season review stated it needed to be done ASAP.

So tell me how close are we to getting a meeting with MPL and SPL clubs in the same room to go over any format details.

Football clubs in Dunedin see themselves being better than those in Chch with one year [last season] being the small hiccup.

Roll on Chatham Cup then.

I think I did more two weekends ago when in Dunedin for a round of the National Rally Champs than has been done in the last two years. Went to two clubs on the Saturday night and 1 not interested [bottom half of SPL at present but a young team] and 1 would be in again the cost and how it would work is the important part. 

So, what have I done to get it off the ground?

Worked my ass off at local club level so that when the chance arises my club can say yes we're in. That's about it really. Didn't realise that I might have to organise the thing as well - thought that was the job of the powers that be? Seems they're not up to it.

Didn't intend to offend you Scottie with my comment about negativity, just wanting something positive to happen. Meanwhile, following on from the recent forum we wait and we wait ............. 3 years later? We wait and we wait and we wait some more, costs go up, clubs say they can't afford it, players and administrators come and go, and we wait some more and we might hold another forum and we might not and we wait. Forever. 

The only constant is the echo in the background, "the league is crap, the league is crap".


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Scottie wrote:

Are we talking about a full on league or a 4 team play offs a previous?

I'm meaning a comp with eight or ten teams over 2 rounds.

8 team league, 2 rounds home and away, the current arrangement ( end of season playoffs) is a joke. It has no profile and does nothing for the game. It's for the sake of the game we need a South Island league. 4 from ChCh, 3 from Dunners and Nelson ( who could hardly say no after chasing so hard for an ASB Premiership spot).

The board at Mainland need to make this a priority!

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I see Burwood defeated Malvern 6 - nil last night in the English Cup.

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Seems a bit strange with no footy on ANZAC Day, normally we would expect the Chatham Cup to be getting underway.

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Ric Astley's international transfer has been completed, he will make his debut this weekend perhaps.


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Picks:

Nelson 4, Nomads 0

FC1102 1, Coastal 3

Bays 2, Halswell 1

Tech 1, Western 0


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Nelson 5 Nomads 0

FCSolastyear 0 Coastal 4 (Weldone to get a hat trick)

Bays 3 Halswell 1

Tech 1 Western 2

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Coastal 3 FC2014DIV1 0
Bays 3 Halswell 1
Nelson 2 Nomads 0
Tech 3 Western 1

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VimFuego wrote:

FC2014DIV1

Love that Vim, it is so next year!

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Todays Results

Bays 3 Halswell 1

Cashmere Tech 5 Western 1

FC Twenty 0 Coastal Spirit 2

Nelson Suburbs 1 Nomads 0

 

 

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Points after 7 of 21 rounds

Bays 18, Cashmere Tech 14, Subutbs 13, Coastal and Western 10 (Both have the same goals for an against) Halswell 9, Nomads 4, FC Twenty 2

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So what can we say about the first round of 3? You'd have to say FC2011 are odds on fave for relegation, however Nomads are only 2 points away, so there is a chance to play their way out. Having watched a few games it would only be those two battling it out, deffo bottom two teams in the league, and won't trouble the other middle of the table clusterf**k that is the MPL. And that leaves Bay$ leading it away with 18 out of a possible 21 (Coastal the only team to take points FYI) so is the title done too?

Where's that crystal ball I had?

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Ronie 

Thanks for the reply re SI league. 

Nomads again had a player sent off, second yellow I think was for kicking the ball away. Just dumb player if that is the case when already yellowed for foul language.

Nomads at least gave a good account but never going to score [Ando didn't go north] unless one of the backs got one from a corner.

Same problem as in the last couple of seasons it's the lack of strike power from midfield to help the forwards out.

Last seson a centre back was second top scorer and got more than the midfield players combined.


Roll on Bays next week see the gap or not between top and bottom of MPL.

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VimFuego wrote:

So what can we say about the first round of 3? You'd have to say FC2011 are odds on fave for relegation, however Nomads are only 2 points away, so there is a chance to play their way out. Having watched a few games it would only be those two battling it out, deffo bottom two teams in the league, and won't trouble the other middle of the table clusterf**k that is the MPL. And that leaves Bay$ leading it away with 18 out of a possible 21 (Coastal the only team to take points FYI) so is the title done too?

Where's that crystal ball I had?

Yes looks like FC and Nomads will battle it out for the wooden spoon but my money on FC as out of their seven games so far 5 have been at home which makes the draw a bit strange - Western have only played two at home, with the other six sides having the expected 4 - 3 split.

Last season FC finished the season on 16 points of which eight come in first seven games. So far this season are continuing the same poor form for most of the 2012 season. Also Leon Vannoort - their top striker from last now playing for Halswell.

I think the title race is not done as dusted just yet but Bays have shown that they make the most of their scoring chances but I think that look fail at the flanks at the back but the opposition then need to get the ball pass Highfield. If Tech can string together 4 or 5 wins they should press Bays but last season dropped stilly points to teams at the bottom half of the table.

Suburbs starting to make their move and once the O League play-off finished expect a few Solomon Islanders to head to Saxton Oval.

On the rest - Coastal, Western and Halswell capable for being the spoliers with Coastal and Western to two to press for a top half finish and if Ash and Gareth can reproduce the goal scoring form from last season still have plenty of time to challange for the title.

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FC a club in crisis? bottom of PDL and MPL and looking for a new WPL coach?


waimak move 2pts clear in div1 after the students dropped points to ctfc turtles


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 FC in crisis? Heard tseto wants a job at APFA

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APFA in the market for quality coaches. 

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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 FC in crisis? Heard tseto wants a job at APFA

 

When is Tsetso back in the country? Missed the last two rounds of the MPL. FC play ChCh United the the English Cup on Tuesday so surely will pick up their first win of the season.

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Ronaldoknow wrote:
Scottie wrote:

Are we talking about a full on league or a 4 team play offs a previous?

I'm meaning a comp with eight or ten teams over 2 rounds.

8 team league, 2 rounds home and away, the current arrangement ( end of season playoffs) is a joke. It has no profile and does nothing for the game. It's for the sake of the game we need a South Island league. 4 from ChCh, 3 from Dunners and Nelson ( who could hardly say no after chasing so hard for an ASB Premiership spot).

The board at Mainland need to make this a priority!


Nelson Suburbs would be better off going into the Central Premier League than going into a Southern championship. It would be a lot cheaper going to Wellington than to Dunedin and the quality would be higher. Would a Nelson team in CPL and then CHCH and Dunedin combining be a bad thing? Probably not.


This also comes on the back of Nelson Suburbs former coaches saying in the match programme that they'd rather play in Wellington and with Suburbs pulling out of the Chatham Cup due to high expenses (which really would only be a trip to Dunedin at most)

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Again the reasons why SI league will not happen any time soon. Can understand reasons for Nelson wanting to move to CPL.

Invercargill or Queenstown could be also be in the venues as both have teams in SPL.

Clubs or most of will not put themselves out there if it's a cost that is more than what is going out at present eg 2 MPL or SPL and a Chatham Cup away trip.

We have clubs in Chch that previously got the hump if they get to play away in Nelson in the Chatham Cup or a 2nd away trip to Nelson for MPL.

Cash Tech and Bays and other Christchurch clubs that want a SI league need to do the donkey work as most SPL teams I think can't be bothered with it.

Money and more money, how many clubs want to put themselves in the position of going belly up like the old Bluebird Southern League  almost did to a couple of local clubs. 

Why should I pay over $300 in Subs to fund some other team playing out of town?

It will have to be self funding somehow or average club members will throw toys at the amount being spent on one team if they are not winning the comp, so Bays will be in pole position to increase subs.

Lets see how many clubs put up at the Mainland AGM tonight and stick a $5000 non refundable entry fee on the table for a SI league.

Would show Mainland Football at least that clubs are in and not just talk.


Back to more things closer to happening.

Waimak the MPL pretenders will be either found out or give fuel in the next 3 games as they play Mid Cant, Varsity then Chch U.

But should they get up what will they do for a PDL team?

 With no team above pressies or masters in the mens and an 18th grade team playing Div 3 or 17s Div 1 [4th behind Hals, Coastal, CTFC] will that cut it? 

Other Div 1 snips bottom 2 teams both on zero points Hornby and Selwyn play each other on Sat.


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Scottie Rd wrote:
Other Div 1 snips bottom 2 teams both on zero points Hornby and Selwyn play each other on Sat.


I can understand a bit with Hornby not having any points on the board yet - but last year Selwyn at least put a fight up.  So far - its not going well.  It will certainly be interesting who gets the upper hand there.
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Scottie Rd wrote:

Back to more things closer to happening.

Waimak the MPL pretenders will be either found out or give fuel in the next 3 games as they play Mid Cant, Varsity then Chch U.

But should they get up what will they do for a PDL team?

 With no team above pressies or masters in the mens and an 18th grade team playing Div 3 or 17s Div 1 [4th behind Hals, Coastal, CTFC] will that cut it? 

Other Div 1 snips bottom 2 teams both on zero points Hornby and Selwyn play each other on Sat.


Waimak 2014 PDL team is playing Pressies A (Waimak Red i think) and are looking to move to U21s as they only have a couple over-age.

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I know it's early days, but what if FC2014 get relegated and their PDL side does not finish last? Which PDL team would make way for Waimak? Would Chc Utd PDL stay in PDL without an MPL team? What are the competition guidelines this year? About 15 so-called PDL teams last year, so I assume it might be negotiate? See who wants to be there? Anyone here know?

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 Quirk of the PDL draw has teams playing same opposition on next 2 consecutive weekends. As it stands at present 1v4 (Bays v Nomads), 2v3 (Halswell Cashmere), 5v6 (Western v Coastal) and 7v8 (Chch Utd v FCthingy); so big couple of weeks for this league.

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Wouldn't it be funny if FC2014 got last in the MPL and their Div 1 team wins and gets promoted?

Surely a rule against it but a good way to keep a team in the MPL.

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I know it's early days, but what if FC2014 get relegated and their PDL side does not finish last? Which PDL team would make way for Waimak? Would Chc Utd PDL stay in PDL without an MPL team? What are the competition guidelines this year? About 15 so-called PDL teams last year, so I assume it might be negotiate? See who wants to be there? Anyone here know?


The way I understand it is:  PDL is a mirror image of the Premier League, apart from the Nelson equation, which is taken by the team that is recently relegated team from the MPL, this year being Chch Utd. So next year, if Waimak do win Div 1 they will go into MPL and their reserve team will take Chch Utd's PDL place. FC2014 will keep their spot in the PDL for the year.
Off to the Mainland AGM, hope for some drama!

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VimFuego wrote:

I know it's early days, but what if FC2014 get relegated and their PDL side does not finish last? Which PDL team would make way for Waimak? Would Chc Utd PDL stay in PDL without an MPL team? What are the competition guidelines this year? About 15 so-called PDL teams last year, so I assume it might be negotiate? See who wants to be there? Anyone here know?


The way I understand it is:  PDL is a mirror image of the Premier League, apart from the Nelson equation, which is taken by the team that is recently relegated team from the MPL, this year being Chch Utd. So next year, if Waimak do win Div 1 they will go into MPL and their reserve team will take Chch Utd's PDL place. FC2014 will keep their spot in the PDL for the year.
Off to the Mainland AGM, hope for some drama!

And? Do tell. Any news of the Sth Island league?

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Not a lot to report to be honest. I thought it would be a whole lot more interesting. I'll do my best:

  • Clubs asked to push the Sporting Goal fund (EQ or FIFA money gifted to assist people that can't afford to play/do FTC) Not a lot of take up from the public apparently. 
  • The numbers of players are still down from before EQ
  • Mainland acknowledged the lack of infrastructure and field quality from around the city
  • Looking at pushing the CCC to create sand-based pitches around the city to improve things and help with FIFA U20 WC bid
  • Big push from some in the audience to create a 'club committee' where member clubs meet and discuss and have a say in how the game is run. 
  • Questions regarding the wage bill being high.
  • South Island League mentioned briefly, supposed to be a letter/email going out to all Dunedin clubs to ascertain whether they would be interested in the league. 

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Reported on other treads but here is the local draw for National Round 2 of the ASB Chatham Cup set down for 11 - 12 May.

Central Pirates vs FC Nelson

Richmond Athletic vs Nelson College

Waimak  vs Selwyn

Nomads vs Halswell

Universities vs FC Twenty11

Coastal Spirit vs Western

Bays and Cashmere have the byes

 

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 Western PDL docked 3 points for playing ineligible player.

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VimFuego wrote:

Not a lot to report to be honest. I thought it would be a whole lot more interesting. I'll do my best:


  • Mainland acknowledged the lack of infrastructure and field quality from around the city
  • Looking at pushing the CCC to create sand-based pitches around the city to improve things and help with FIFA U20 WC bid


 I drafted a letter and a petition about 6 weeks ago and put to the NWRA about turning a council leased plot of land into just this sort of area. 

Mainland Football or at least you would think would have a bit more of an ear with any council review than a few rate payers.

Hence me waiting for Mike Coggin to get back to me after leaving a message on his phone. Mainland need to know and help with what has been put out there to council, so will it be of no surprise if I don't get a call abck from MC.

The surrounding area in mention drains away in an hour or two after any heavy rain no matter how long it lasts.

Try that at Barnett, Tulett and Walter Parks.

Best drainage in the city needs to developed soon or a lost chance to do someting with it.

Locals or some of them are keen and stated to council for a reserve to be developed and a good way would be to put an overflow or specialist style/use on the area.

None of this lobbying has anything to do or input from any club but what we see as rate payers could be of use for football overall.

Let's look at how bad we are being served by coucil. 

Bishopdale Park football pitch has been more like a cow paddock in mid winter so far this season. Grass has needed mowing since the start of season and now with the rain the mower would be making goat track marks if not cut yesterday. What other parks do we use that are like that? 



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