On another note, the chant of 'Yellow Army' went non-stop from about when the 4th goal went in until the end. It did not stop all , kudo's to all the fans who kept supporting even when it was becoming a bit shameful.
Yeah, the infinite chanting/drumming was great and the perfect distraction from the pain, haha.
Honorable mention to the PA failure during the DJ set before the match which granted the "who are ya?" chant the spotlight.
Ha ha, you were spared the fool doing saxophone karaoke we usually get before games
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WanderingSheep
theprof
You'd forgive the bus company for not being aware of the march, it has only occurred 8/9 times. The Nix have played more times in Auckland than AFC have.
I'd say that this was a police / AFCBK problem. Not the bus company, who have probably driven the same route regardless of who is playing there. If there was a march, AFCBK should have made that known to security and the bus company. I'd imagine it was a convenient inconvenience. Petty.
The march is well known by the stadium. They were asked to be at the ground at a certain time, so not to mix with the Nix march. They were told specifically to be past the a certain gate the YF were coming in, 20 minutes before the YF arrived. So yes the bus company and security messed this up, not the Port
I knew you had jumped ship to Auckland.AucklandPhoenix
Where in relation to the port do you guys sit and what type of flags do you have to identify your group?
Sat for the first time in the port section in the weekend. Admittedly at the front but enjoyed it and was fairly tame. Must admit it was difficult to understand the chants (maybe with no roof it was tricky) so they still need a bit of work or maybe kiwis just mumble 😂
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Napier Phoenix
I knew you had jumped ship to Auckland.AucklandPhoenix
Where in relation to the port do you guys sit and what type of flags do you have to identify your group?
Sat for the first time in the port section in the weekend. Admittedly at the front but enjoyed it and was fairly tame. Must admit it was difficult to understand the chants (maybe with no roof it was tricky) so they still need a bit of work or maybe kiwis just mumble 😂
I agree with others that the club is likely to give Chiefy an extension but I honestly don't think they can afford to be sentimental and go off goodwill from last season.
We have had bad seasons before but what is so concerning is how bereft of quality our squad is, how uninspiring and dull our style of play is and worst of all, how the coaching staff and leadership of the club seem to think things are going just fine - even after the worst loss in our history.
What matters is not what Chiefy has done in the past - it's what the team under his leadership will be capable of doing next season. Given his broken promises, attitude and tactical stubbornness, I'm shark scared next year will be just as bad and we will continue to haemorrhage fans and be the second best football club in NZ in nearly every department.
With that in mind - the clubs future is more important than loyalty to Chiefy.
But man it's clear Chiefy this season, didn't set out to play this turgid style. And that's not how he will want to play next season.
Criticise him for not having a backup 10 to Rojas (though was that meant to be Cola?), or not doing better due dilgence on Nagasawa who from memory we were told could play 10.
Blame him for poor contingency planning, bad DD, or not carrying a rabbit's foot to prevent player injuries.
But he donna no wanna play that dope a rope stuff no mas.
He's now got 9 games with (Cola excepted) a mostly injury free squad. Lets see what happens.
Some tough words towards the Nix by Andy Harper on the Beaver and Guy podcast. Along the lines on how the Nix have consistently failed the add value to the League and have been seriously shown up by the new boys on the block AFC. Hard words but an element of truth IMO. He was more complimentary to Chiefy....citing bad luck with injuries and failure to adequetly replace key players as the root of this seasons problems
Some tough words towards the Nix by Andy Harper on the Beaver and Guy podcast. Along the lines on how the Nix have consistently failed the add value to the League and have been seriously shown up by the new boys on the block AFC. Hard words but an element of truth IMO. He was more complimentary to Chiefy....citing bad luck with injuries and failure to adequetly replace key players as the root of this seasons problems
Bit rough that.
I think we add a lot of value by you know... being financially solvent. Something that some other clubs still in the league pretty consistently have failed to do.
Some tough words towards the Nix by Andy Harper on the Beaver and Guy podcast. Along the lines on how the Nix have consistently failed the add value to the League and have been seriously shown up by the new boys on the block AFC. Hard words but an element of truth IMO. He was more complimentary to Chiefy....citing bad luck with injuries and failure to adequetly replace key players as the root of this seasons problems
Consistently failed to add value? really? sure there have been season which havent gone well, including this one. But we've brought more to the table than a good number of clubs in the league and that's from our own owners funding, so many of the Aus clubs have required funding from the league to stay afloat, how is that adding value? Yes, we havent won the league or a trophy but we've brought a financially stable franchise, that has given another avenue for Aussie players to re-find form along with the development of NZ players. Harper is a clown and has always held the nix to a higher standard than the other teams in the league, despite many of them failing financially and being supported by the league or other clubs - ie being a burden on the league. AFC being a strong as they are highlights the Nix not winning anything, but that's purely on the back of favourable entry conditions and no financial barriers to getting the coaches and players they wanted.
Where in relation to the port do you guys sit and what type of flags do you have to identify your group?
Sat for the first time in the port section in the weekend. Admittedly at the front but enjoyed it and was fairly tame. Must admit it was difficult to understand the chants (maybe with no roof it was tricky) so they still need a bit of work or maybe kiwis just mumble 😂
I agree.
I was right behind the port with my Nix shirt on and all I could hear was the upper corner of yellow. The singing up there was the only thing good about the colour yellow on Sunday.
Highlight for me was the Harvard's at half time. Says all about the game really.
It was the same at the Western U. game, we few Nix fans there made more noise then the AFC and WU fans put together and without the need of a megaphone or getting the academy to make up the active support numbers (WU).
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Personally, I don't think many players in this Nix side will make the club money (Only LBS really and he had a 50/50 game and is currently a bit slow).
If fact, only five kiwis have ever been sold for coin plus an Aussie (from memory). That's not a great return on investment when we've been around for donkeys years.
Do well, people want our players like last year, play sh!t and the scouts won't even turn up.
Does the club not see that by playing sh!t with another team now in the country result in fans hemorrhaging to the opposition.
My Waikato family (Dad excluded) who came with me to the game all supported AFC even though they were cheering on the Nix at Eden Park only a season ago. Don't forget the Waikato hates jafa land!
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites
Casual fan I spoke to yesterday (my cricket coach) was amazed to hear that the Nix came second last season. I explained the realities of a salary-capped league.
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Marto
Personally, I don't think many players in this Nix side will make the club money (Only LBS really and he had a 50/50 game and is currently a bit slow).
If fact, only five kiwis have ever been sold for coin plus an Aussie (from memory). That's not a great return on investment when we've been around for donkeys years.
Do well, people want our players like last year, play sh!t and the scouts won't even turn up.
Does the club not see that by playing sh!t with another team now in the country result in fans hemorrhaging to the opposition.
My Waikato family (Dad excluded) who came with me to the game all supported AFC even though they were cheering on the Nix at Eden Park only a season ago. Don't forget the Waikato hates jafa land!
Re player sales the Academy has only been around about 10 years and at its current level (6-7 teams) about 5 years. I get 7 transfer fee sales. Singh, Libby, Waine, Fraser, Surman, Old and Paulsen.
Fraser excepted I think they were all around the first team 2-4 seasons before the overseas offers came in.
It’s way way too early to rule out Hughes, Walker, AKH, LKH, Candy, Conchie, Sheridan, Supyk etc. They are on huge learning curves. Surman barely played an ALM game in his 2nd Nix season, and if Chief had signed another visa CB as was rumoured at one point winter 2023, he may not have had his breakout 3rd season.
Think you have to time to Conchie especially in midfield. Rufer was maligned for years before really nailing his role there.
Personally, I don't think many players in this Nix side will make the club money (Only LBS really and he had a 50/50 game and is currently a bit slow).
If fact, only five kiwis have ever been sold for coin plus an Aussie (from memory). That's not a great return on investment when we've been around for donkeys years.
Do well, people want our players like last year, play sh!t and the scouts won't even turn up.
Does the club not see that by playing sh!t with another team now in the country result in fans hemorrhaging to the opposition.
My Waikato family (Dad excluded) who came with me to the game all supported AFC even though they were cheering on the Nix at Eden Park only a season ago. Don't forget the Waikato hates jafa land!
And I think this is the bit that the club is missing at times - they have to invest money to make money. When you choose to do things on the cheap, you run the risk of losing those savings and goodwill through both less interest and sales from the global transfer market and less ticket sales and merch sales.
We know big player sales and big crowds help to keep the club alive, so surely they know that if they're jeopardising both these things there's trouble.
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I don't think the club and Welnix will be happy with the current situation. They had a taste of real success last season. A sell out home semi final, and 3 very nice chunky player sales. They want that again.
From that great season with a first year coach, they would have thought the club model based off a strong clear Academy pathway, supplemented with good visa player recruitment was the way forward.
The reduced APL annual disbursement to a $500K pittance, was a blow (as it was to all the clubs), and probably restrained their new player spending plans. And with the 3 chunky player sales, who knows when that will happen again (could be 10 years or more), so you can't just go out and blow all that cash. Plus alot of that dosh will come in til later as add ons anyway.
I'm sure Chiefy's been told there must be a marked improvement now until season end. He knows. Lets hope there is.
But yeah Harper has no idea comparing the Nix to Auckland. Welnix are wealthy but they are not Billionaires x2. Plus they are almost accidental football club owners. Stepping in last minute to save their local football team. Very different to sports mad Foley, who seems driven to spend his final years assembling a cabal of successful sports teams worldwide. Money no object, and he's very driven to win
I agree that there is little to gain from listening to Andy Harper. He is way too parochial and small minded to provide anything useful to the conversation. He used to bag the Nix for not providing much to the league, but he would not say the same about the A-FC now. History of the ALM league is littered with corpses of Gold Coast United and Nth Qld Fury who did not last the distance. Canberra still cannot get underway. Yet we are still here - modest, winless, but neither broken nor broke.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
I mean, we've heard it all before, right? Nothing new to see here.
Also, just a friendly reminder that the only reason we keep being compared to Auckland is that we're both from the same country. Aside from that, the clubs really couldn't be any more different.
I mean, we've heard it all before, right? Nothing new to see here.
Also, just a friendly reminder that the only reason we keep being compared to Auckland is that we're both from the same country. Aside from that, the clubs really couldn't be any more different.
Yeah I suppose Morrison's shareholding in Infratil at half a billion is small change compared to Foley's pile. Plus the Todd Energy guy... and the other millionaires that make up Welnix. Couldn't be any more more different.
Just an observation from watching the game on TV and this is probably a kiwi sports fan thing but there were constantly hundreds of people walking around while the game was on. Maybe I'm old school but I'm always in my seat at least 10 minutes before kickoff (sometimes longer) and often don't even leave at half time. I just don't get why people don't watch a game they've paid good money to go to. Obviously toilet breaks are acceptable. I must be just old and weird :) It's not just football either. Very common at cricket and rugby.
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Jessie Merino
queenofthequail
I mean, we've heard it all before, right? Nothing new to see here.
Also, just a friendly reminder that the only reason we keep being compared to Auckland is that we're both from the same country. Aside from that, the clubs really couldn't be any more different.
Yeah I suppose Morrison's shareholding in Infratil at half a billion is small change compared to Foley's pile. Plus the Todd Energy guy... and the other millionaires that make up Welnix. Couldn't be any more more different.
Yep. It looks like Foley's personal worth is around 7x Morrison.
And Black Knights Sport and Entertainment, which is his corporate vehicle for all his sports ownership, made nearly US$500m profit in the last year I found numbers for. So that business makes more profit each year than Morrison is worth.
Just an observation from watching the game on TV and this is probably a kiwi sports fan thing but there were constantly hundreds of people walking around while the game was on. Maybe I'm old school but I'm always in my seat at least 10 minutes before kickoff (sometimes longer) and often don't even leave at half time. I just don't get why people don't watch a game they've paid good money to go to. Obviously toilet breaks are acceptable. I must be just old and weird :) It's not just football either. Very common at cricket and rugby.
I'm guessing people just want to get food and drinks as close to kick-off as possible so as to not finish before game starts? Personally I'm more like you but that's my main guess
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Welnix group ain't paupers at all. Rob Morrison maybe closer to being a Billionaire than Nix fans would care to admit.
But none of them appear to be the sports nut that Foley is. Turning up at Vegas hockey games, Bournemouth FC new facility unveilings, and no doubt Auckland FC finals. The Lear jet will be doing some kms. I mean the poor bloke made his bilions in one the world's most dead boring industries - Insurance. No wonder he wants get the blood pumping with sports ownership in his dotage.
Garth Morgan tried to get football passionate and hands on at Nix trainings. But it didn't prove to match his skill set.
Again Welnix are more accidental football owners, and I think that makes a difference with the ambitions of the 2 clubs. Fair enough. It's Rob Morrison's hard earned cash, and if he doesn't want to spend OTT on the Nix that's his business. Didn't they spend a record amount in Talay's last season, and it was a bit of flat dud??
I mean, we've heard it all before, right? Nothing new to see here.
Also, just a friendly reminder that the only reason we keep being compared to Auckland is that we're both from the same country. Aside from that, the clubs really couldn't be any more different.
Yeah I suppose Morrison's shareholding in Infratil at half a billion is small change compared to Foley's pile. Plus the Todd Energy guy... and the other millionaires that make up Welnix. Couldn't be any more more different.
Yep. It looks like Foley's personal worth is around 7x Morrison.
And Black Knights Sport and Entertainment, which is his corporate vehicle for all his sports ownership, made around US$500m profit in the last year I found numbers for. So that business makes about as much profit each year as Morrison is worth.
So, yeah, couldn't be more different.
They probably swap emails about best restaurants, best golf courses, best brand Champagne.
Where in relation to the port do you guys sit and what type of flags do you have to identify your group?
Sat for the first time in the port section in the weekend. Admittedly at the front but enjoyed it and was fairly tame. Must admit it was difficult to understand the chants (maybe with no roof it was tricky) so they still need a bit of work or maybe kiwis just mumble 😂
I agree.
I was right behind the port with my Nix shirt on and all I could hear was the upper corner of yellow. The singing up there was the only thing good about the colour yellow on Sunday.
Highlight for me was the Harvard's at half time. Says all about the game really.
It was the same at the Western U. game, we few Nix fans there made more noise then the AFC and WU fans put together and without the need of a megaphone or getting the academy to make up the active support numbers (WU).
Some tough words towards the Nix by Andy Harper on the Beaver and Guy podcast. Along the lines on how the Nix have consistently failed the add value to the League and have been seriously shown up by the new boys on the block AFC. Hard words but an element of truth IMO. He was more complimentary to Chiefy....citing bad luck with injuries and failure to adequetly replace key players as the root of this seasons problems
Harper is a useless and lazy prick who has never added anything to any game I’ve watched and now is getting stuck in when we’re down. He gets a job because he repeats talking points. He can f right off.
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austin111
Some tough words towards the Nix by Andy Harper on the Beaver and Guy podcast. Along the lines on how the Nix have consistently failed the add value to the League and have been seriously shown up by the new boys on the block AFC. Hard words but an element of truth IMO. He was more complimentary to Chiefy....citing bad luck with injuries and failure to adequetly replace key players as the root of this seasons problems
Ah it’s on Sen. Just an Auckland FC mutual pleasure session. If they gave a shark they’d ask Ifill or Siggie or Piney or Greenie or anyone with anything to do with NZ football rather than a bitter ex-Fox prick. Weren’t we propping Newcastle up financially for several years? Where’s the Canberra money? Where’s the buyer for CCM? Why’d it take so long to get an owner at Perth? Where are the fans at WU and MacArthur?
In fact, look at the attendances outside derbies at all the clubs who aren’t Auckland. Where are the fans in Aussie? Harper should be asking why the a league is sharke in Aussie and much of it is to do with him and his Fox sports moron mates screwing the game over.
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And the other very important point is that without us there is no Auckland. There’s no NZ club. With that there’s no billionaires taking a risky bet. Rob met Bill right?
We’ve been taking two or three games north or more with preseason for 18 years. We’ve shown that it’s viable for an NZ club to be in the A league. Many of the fans who are now with AFC came from a habit of watching professional football with the Nix and know the A league because it’s in the NZ market because of the Nix.
What a joke Sen are. Next up Clive Woodward to talk about why the All Blacks are crap and are never guna be world number one again. Smithy sort your useless mates out.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned already but I just noticed in an article from Saturday by Michael Burgess about the derby he says:
"With this victory, Auckland became the first team in A League history to win three derbies in a season, something that hadn’t been achieved in either the inter-Sydney or inter-Melbourne clashes."
He forgets its been done 3 times in the F3 derby - I know he mentions afterwards saying it hasn't been done in the Sydney or Melbourne ones, but surely the F3 counts as Newcastle and Gosford are much closer geographically than Wellington and Auckland - and its also the longest standing derby in the league...
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mjp2
Jessie Merino
queenofthequail
I mean, we've heard it all before, right? Nothing new to see here.
Also, just a friendly reminder that the only reason we keep being compared to Auckland is that we're both from the same country. Aside from that, the clubs really couldn't be any more different.
Yeah I suppose Morrison's shareholding in Infratil at half a billion is small change compared to Foley's pile. Plus the Todd Energy guy... and the other millionaires that make up Welnix. Couldn't be any more more different.
Yep. It looks like Foley's personal worth is around 7x Morrison.
And Black Knights Sport and Entertainment, which is his corporate vehicle for all his sports ownership, made nearly US$500m profit in the last year I found numbers for. So that business makes more profit each year than Morrison is worth.
So, yeah, couldn't be more different.
I am happy for A-FC to succeed, and I can forgive them for winning the trophy / trophies. But I will not forgive them winning at AAMI Stadium in Melbourne.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Some tough words towards the Nix by Andy Harper on the Beaver and Guy podcast. Along the lines on how the Nix have consistently failed the add value to the League and have been seriously shown up by the new boys on the block AFC. Hard words but an element of truth IMO. He was more complimentary to Chiefy....citing bad luck with injuries and failure to adequetly replace key players as the root of this seasons problems
Harper has always been a fudgeing mong, can't believe youre listening and nodding your head to that guy.
Some tough words towards the Nix by Andy Harper on the Beaver and Guy podcast. Along the lines on how the Nix have consistently failed the add value to the League and have been seriously shown up by the new boys on the block AFC. Hard words but an element of truth IMO. He was more complimentary to Chiefy....citing bad luck with injuries and failure to adequetly replace key players as the root of this seasons problems
Harper and other Australian commentators have always been like this with the Nix to be fair.
Case in point imo - the over the top praise Rudan and Ufuk constantly got from their pundits for midtable finishes. As if they were absolute miracle workers that were somehow preventing a hopeless club from being wooden spooners. Meanwhile we had improved a lot off the pitch too with the academy and first team integration, club culture, recruitment strategies and training facilities. Of course Marko and Uffie deserved praise but it wasn't just them making miracles out of nothing!
Same again is true here - Chiefy is part of the Australian coaching fraternity so eludes critique but they're happy to just rip into the club.
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And Sen by extension pandering to him. Lazy muck raking. Still nice to have Auckland back right? There’s a reason they’re not universally loved across their non-soccer football teams. Sometimes they were Fitzy. The dirtiest rugby player ever (outside idiots like Richard Loe) but we never saw it. We just saw all the retaliation!
I mean, we've heard it all before, right? Nothing new to see here.
Also, just a friendly reminder that the only reason we keep being compared to Auckland is that we're both from the same country. Aside from that, the clubs really couldn't be any more different.
Yeah I suppose Morrison's shareholding in Infratil at half a billion is small change compared to Foley's pile. Plus the Todd Energy guy... and the other millionaires that make up Welnix. Couldn't be any more more different.
Chiefy getting his excuses in 5 days later blaming the ref for not giving Nando a red after 90 seconds.
Needs to focus on the future not the past.
he was asked specifically about ref decisions and gave his honest opinion, and I think fair points made and I had the same reactions. He didn't give it as an excuse because those decisions weren't made and they lost.
