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even as an Aucklander I'd much prefer the Cake Tin. Thank fudge it's not QBE

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Nelfoos wrote:

Hay showing why he was the wrong choice. He doesn't get it, despite "getting NZ football" appearing to be the key thing he was hired based on.

"getting NZ football" = getting Auckaldn football

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Wish NZF would hurry tf up and organise a three match series every year against Australia. Doesn't need top overseas players. 2 games at home, 1 away, switching around every year. It is our biggest/only rivalry in sport and the lack of these fixtures ensures NZ football remains very low on people's radar.

This is logistically impossible, even if it 'doesn't need top overseas players'. Unless you were meaning a Northern/Central League XI v a NPL XI.

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Wish NZF would hurry tf up and organise a three match series every year against Australia. Doesn't need top overseas players. 2 games at home, 1 away, switching around every year. It is our biggest/only rivalry in sport and the lack of these fixtures ensures NZ football remains very low on people's radar.

This is logistically impossible, even if it 'doesn't need top overseas players'. Unless you were meaning a Northern/Central League XI v a NPL XI.

South Island League XI as well, don't forget!

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Why is it impossible?  Maybe a one-off match each year?  Australia to select only A league players and New Zealand to select A league and local if required?  A-League could run it not as a full international but as a state of origin or all star style one-off.  

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tonycottee wrote:

Why is it impossible?  Maybe a one-off match each year?  Australia to select only A league players and New Zealand to select A league and local if required?  A-League could run it not as a full international but as a state of origin or all star style one-off.  

Pretty much nil incentive for FFA to bother.

Australian public get plenty of international football with Socceroos having Asian Cup & World Cup qualifying campaigns. This October window Nepal & Chinese Tapiei.

Lots of easier AFC games for Arnie to experiment with and have a look at local A League players, rather than just pick the Euro based pros. 

Also A League now back to playing through FIFA windows - so when would you even find the right time for a Australian vs NZ A League selection game?

Is a pity though, as with 20 odd Kiwis now contracted to A League clubs (plus a few Handy Prem players to flesh out a squad) would be a reasonable 'NZ' team. 

The missed opportunity was March 2019 FIFA window earlier this year. A League stopped for that window, yet neither AWs nor Socceroos played!! Socceroos had played Asian Cup earlier in January, so FFA probably not too bothered, but NZF just another clusterfudge by running Handy Prem through that March window and therefore not being able to cobble together a side for that Malaysian tourney invite. That would have been a prime date slot to try schedule some sort of NZ v Aus fixture.

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Also a hard sell to the NZ public that they should care about two B sides having a kick about. I know we have a rivalry with Australia but that alone doesn't seem like enough to get people interested

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Also a hard sell to the NZ public that they should care about two B sides having a kick about. I know we have a rivalry with Australia but that alone doesn't seem like enough to get people interested

Meh! play it in Auckland, at least they turn up for games.
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Wish NZF would hurry tf up and organise a three match series every year against Australia. Doesn't need top overseas players. 2 games at home, 1 away, switching around every year. It is our biggest/only rivalry in sport and the lack of these fixtures ensures NZ football remains very low on people's radar.

With Asian Cup/World Cup qualifying every 2 year cycle, what interest would Aussie have in that arrangement?

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Royz wrote:

Also a hard sell to the NZ public that they should care about two B sides having a kick about. I know we have a rivalry with Australia but that alone doesn't seem like enough to get people interested

Meh! play it in Auckland, at least they turn up for games.

I'm sure Danny Hay would support it. Footballs coming home - Yeah right. To a nearly empty one.

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[quote=pickledmyself]

Wish NZF would hurry tf up and organise a three match series every year against Australia. Doesn't need top overseas players. 2 games at home, 1 away, switching around every year. It is our biggest/only rivalry in sport and the lack of these fixtures ensures NZ football remains very low on people's radar.

Agree 100%. Even if it’s only A league based players representing both countries.

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Palau wrote:

[quote=pickledmyself]

Wish NZF would hurry tf up and organise a three match series every year against Australia. Doesn't need top overseas players. 2 games at home, 1 away, switching around every year. It is our biggest/only rivalry in sport and the lack of these fixtures ensures NZ football remains very low on people's radar.

Agree 100%. Even if it’s only A league based players representing both countries.

When would you play these games? In a FIFA window for which the A-League doesn't stop? 

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about 14 years

Once again, there are just so many reasons to not play international fixtures aren't there

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over 3 years

reg22 wrote:

Once again, there are just so many reasons to not play international fixtures aren't there

"to not" OR "why it's difficult to" / "why it's not the best use of NZF's time and resources" ?

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Anyone get to this event on Monday night, held at Western Springs clubrooms? Understand Hay was going to speak about some of the challenges getting AWs together/games. Could have been interesting.

 


https://www.friendsoffootballnz.com/2021/05/01/your-chance-to-enjoy-another-evening-with-all-whites-coach-danny-hay/
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Buzzing

It's interesting that what many All Whites supporters (myself included) consider to be one of the highlights of following the national team, that is, the qualifier against Bahrain in 2009 he considers to be "a bit of a burden". Do we take it from this that he doesn't want to "burden" supporters with such success in the future? I can't fathom the logic that says we had success at a venue so we shouldn't continue to play there.

He sees it as a burden as that side set the bar for what we should expect from an AW side which I and others feel Hay will not be able to deliver.
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exactly, previous successes for Hay are a noose around his neck, he's worried that due to lack of games and playing time his squad wont be able to achieve anything close to WC quals.

despite having what some would say the best group of young and experienced players to pick from.

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