chopah wrote:theprof wrote:it's staggering how you miss the point again.
the difference between the two systems:
one club wants to develop talent though an academy and age group teams - ie they invest in youth and grow them
the other wants regional clubs to develop the talent for them and select them for their reserve teams or OPL or Aleague team when the peak where is the investment of the money the OPL gives them?
both identify talent sure, one actually invests money into developing it, the other does not. And yet the one system that identifies tale young and invests in developing said talent doesn't get into the league that is built to develop and grow talent.
Nix spend money on developing players - yes and then financially recoup some of it when they sell players at the first team as they have most of the 15-21 years of development age for training compensation
Auckland FC don't spend the money on developing players - let the clubs develop them and then the clubs get the financial rewards when those players go pro somewhere - be it Auckland or somewhere else.
Like I said two different systems - but pro's and con's of both pretty obvious.
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
I see lots of references here to 3 billionaire owners.
bill sure
That Anna chick, sure
Are you confusing Ali Williams ability to snag a billionaire with actually being one?
Or is there another mystery one?
martinb wrote:AucklandPhoenix wrote:Surely you know matrimonial property laws, with your busy pre-nup and divorce practice you have? Are you assuming he’s excluded from their property?
I see lots of references here to 3 billionaire owners.
bill sure
That Anna chick, sure
Are you confusing Ali Williams ability to snag a billionaire with actually being one?
Or is there another mystery one?
Also, interesting that this is the only response to my post.
Much safer arguing about youth development than why one of the confederations main revenue streams should go to a club with strong financial backing in the most financially viable city for a club in the Oceania confederation. Along with the assistance the league has been in general with young players and preparation. Liam Gillion able to come in from that to a finals series, after he’d been stinking the joint up, according to Corica.
Not quite the building local infrastructure and careers in the Islands story, huh.
theprof wrote:
the difference between the two systems:
one club wants to develop talent though an academy and age group teams - ie they invest in youth and grow them
the other wants regional clubs to develop the talent for them and select them for their reserve teams or OPL or Aleague team when the peak where is the investment of the money the OPL gives them?
both identify talent sure, one actually invests money into developing it, the other does not. And yet the one system that identifies tale young and invests in developing said talent doesn't get into the league that is built to develop and grow talent.
+1
Southernix wrote:
Friendly announced:
Auckland FC v Western Sydney Wanderers
19 September
3pm
McLean Park, Napier
Queenslander 3x a year.
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
Strange heading into Nix territory
Would have liked them to give Hamilton a go.
Maybe they still will.
RR wrote:AucklandPhoenix wrote:Council probably helping foot the bill of hosting it. Iirc they contributed to the Nix ALM game up in Napier a few years back.
Strange heading into Nix territory
Would have liked them to give Hamilton a go.
Maybe they still will.
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
I did wonder if you had lumped her brothers in with her
But thought surely the BS meter couldn’t swing that far 😂
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
It’s actually the Saudis that are footing the bill here, not OFC. Money isn’t being taken off the poor island nations. So let’s drop that fallacy. All money into this comp is new money, not fleecing the football fees of some kid in Ba.
No problem in a little new professional club in NZ taking money of the Saudis as they attempt to buy a reputation before their oil runs out.
And as per my posting of the OFC regulations the other day, the other clubs get some Saudi money as well. It is of benefit to them.
One day yes, I would however want the Fijian team to win the OFC league. Both for football and financial reasons. They probably have a better chance while the Nix are not there, unfortunately.
ballane wrote:RR wrote:Yeah and sadly they have shown little interest in a return.AucklandPhoenix wrote:Council probably helping foot the bill of hosting it. Iirc they contributed to the Nix ALM game up in Napier a few years back.
Strange heading into Nix territory
Would have liked them to give Hamilton a go.
Maybe they still will.
Always thought Labour Weekend would have been an ideal to time to have an annual fixture there. With the u19 tournament could have been something people could plan for.
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
The Nix went to Auckland to please their sponsors and draw a decent crowd from time to time. DD has been on record before as saying the Auckland crowds have previously been the difference between the season being ok financially and not.
I would say the Nix will get 20k at the new CHC Stadium when they head there for the each of the next 2 seasons.
LG wrote:
I don't recall South Island FC getting any games in the South Island, can this be confirmed or proven wrong.
LG wrote:
I don't recall South Island FC getting any games in the South Island, can this be confirmed or proven wrong.
mrsmiis wrote:
Woud was great. Al Ahli certainly became dominant as the game went on, but the best chances of the first half went to Rogerson - one was a lame shot right at the keeper one-on-one from a tight angle, and the other was a brilliant header matched by an even better Mendy save.
Cosgrove absolutely atrocious, yet again, following some poor performances against National League opposition in friendlies. Looked like he’s an amputee learning how to use his prosthetics out there.
Goals don’t equate to talent or impact. Many strikers could have racked up that tally in Auckland’s system last year with a vastly improved all-round impact
martinb wrote:
Yeh, the Australians had the Phoenix supporting them financially in order to keep them afloat. That was an advantage they had, to just keep the lights on. Newcastle specifically. About half of them at least are struggling or were struggling financially. I’m sure they wouldn’t mind half a mill plus plus from the confederation in prizes, plus a development league to play their youth in.
And so I have a bit of legitimate beef, not just the fertilizer?
I just don’t see Auckland working together for the good of the A league or of NZ football the way the Nix did.
You’ve got very solvent and financially stable owners, the potentially best football market in terms of riding the inflation/unemployment waves (though the RoF will always be the home of NZ Football for me-2009! Where it all began) and had a lot of support from the confederation that could have been helpfully shared.
And now Corica’s gone, you can’t be accused of being Michael Clark-esque narcissistic fouling and whining brylcreem Sydneysiders anymore, so piggy wiggy wiggy woos it is noshing up all the funding it is.
Interesting how all that talk about building a stadium has vanished too. And that apparently had help from Tim Brown, Winston Reid and Steven Adams as well. Let’s call them proto-billionaires or per capita billionaires.
It’s BS though that the Aussies have gone no Kiwis in the Aussie Cup, cutting out a comp Paulsen and others found great for their development, and the OFC have said ‘No Nix…for now’ so both confederations are crapping on the Phoenix, rather than help them.
Queenslander 3x a year.
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
Don’t get all fired up by this question as it is a a serious one.
When was the last meeting and when is the next one scheduled?
theprof wrote:
word on the stret is that AFC management had government officials in Auckland and the mayor at a casual get together to discuss a new stadium. it's most definately not off the table - they just want goevernment money.
Valley FC til I die?
