Coaching Speculation - The global search to hire Mark Rudan

good credentials on paper  and now involved with a similar position in australia at ffa...does he have any history of pro club coaching and would he be more suited to a director of fooball position?...also has he burnt bridges here previousy...talked up hudson a bit wen he left nzf

What about Scott Miller? Talking to Simon Hill and Adam Peacock he was saying he's back in Australia with hopefully a few opportunities as head coach in the A-League. He took on Newcastle Jets when they looked in equally bad shape as us and made huge strides in turning everything around. I know they only went from finishing 10th to finishing 8th, but he seems like a really great man manager who cares about his players but also doesn't take any shark. Talks a lot about player mentality and the importance of having multiple game plans. He's also young, Aussie, has worked in the league under a strict budget at a struggling club and actually turned things around with that team - Maybe he could be a good pick up? And as much as I hate this being noteworthy, he's well liked by all the mugs on fox sports. 

Whats Ange P doing these days?

I like Scott Miller and have dropped his name in this thread a few times. Agree with the above and would add that he's young and learning. He's been busy educating himself lately too and will be a much better coach today than he was at Newcaste where he was quite good. Comes across really well

Earning bucket loads of cash coaching Yokohama F. Marinos

#millerin

So 3 admin people will pick the new coach? Only half joking.  Nothing would surprise me this season.
BTW, isn't there some kind of committee with a few ex-players on it which will get involved with the actual selection? Who are these people, and is there anything coming out of Nix HQ to suggest this task is being treated with urgency? 

IMO all appointments need to be run through us. not joking at all.

Given that they've said they have been keeping tabs on a number of options, they better not fudge around and wait till june. Maybe that was just a smoke screen and really they have no one in mind, but getting in a new coach needs to be the absolute priority. If he can be in charge for the last few games and have a good look at the squad, maybe the new coach will actually stand a chance to keep the players he wants and get rid of the others. We waste so much time and there's shark all communication with the fans. Even if they set a timeline saying they would have a coach by May 31st I'd be somewhat fine with it, because it would show transparency and honesty. I mean, I'd still be annoyed given thats when contracts expire and is far too late, but at least we could give them shark about it and try to hurry them up. At the moment we are going off nothing.

I suspect we may be victims of circumstance (again). I reckon they are working hard but the majority of their shortlist has had the handbrakes put on.

- Sounds like Vidmar's demands were unreasonable for a man who hasn't coached a club side in 6 years, left the last club acrimoniously and offered very little as an Aus youth coach.

- Ramon has been litigated already

- The Sydney gig being vacant also rules out the likes of Poppa, Rudan and Corica who will all be busy angling for that gig - and potentially CCM if Okon gets the archer.

That would have been most people's shortlist and I suspect the clubs.

If they were serious about Rob Sherman as one of their top candidates, he would already be in charge.

I can't believe he isn't/wasn't a top candidate for this job. I may be starting to sound like a broken record (remember those?) with my advocacy for his appointment, but Sherman has terrific credentials and I've read on this forum that he's well respected locally. He'd be a super-safe selection at a time when appointing the wrong man could sink this club. 

Sherman has not coached since Jesus was a stick ornament. If Ramon was a risk, this guy has the same risk factor as Ramon if not more so.

Credentialled- yes

Actively coaching - no

(Yes aware Ramon is not allowed to the coach but he was labelled risky)

On the other hand, listening to him last night on the A-League Show, he was not bagging the Nix.

Either he's hedging his bets cause he's gonna apply, or he has common sense, or both.

Edit: he may not be even any better coach than Greenacre, but he's qualified while Greenie is not.

I would hate to follow in Arnie's footsteps, if you did not win next season you would be deemed a failure. Would rather take last placed team, easy win...

I heard Pine say in the commentary that there was an offer in front of Lujic, and today's stuff report was there was no offer yet for Goran. Clearly, some calls are being made, I'll pretend that decisions are made by a new coach and not a committee, 'cause that would be making the same mistakes as last year...

I was assured by a course that that is not the case (Ljujic being offered a deal) but they could have put me wrong.

Also much smugness over my earlier call about the CCM gig being up for grabs:

Ray Gatt‏Verified account@Gatty54

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Massive news: I understand Paul Okon has quit as Mariners coach effectively immediately. Story online soon.

Okon had the Mariners playing great football, would be interesting to see what he could do with a bigger budget at the Nix.

He would be a target I would consider for sure.

One thing that I think we have to be mindful in going after these coaches is this:

Ernie Merrick was a successful caoch at Melbourne and showing the same at the Jets. He was less successful at the Phoenix. Seeing how good he is, why would a coach of any note want to touch the job when they consider how a good coach previously went.

Okon?  Please just stop.

The answer is a bloke who has left the Mariners one game ahead of the Phoenix in a season where we've had the assistant Manager, manager, Brazilian import and Australian international all go where we have played the same backline consecutively maybe twice all season and according to most social media is run by people who have no idea how to run a football club, a business, a piss up in brewery (pick whichever one the keyboard experts are using this week)?

That's hardly aspirational is it?

Okan has his team playing good passing football but his team lacked a striker.

At the moment, the only candidate we potentially know about is Sherman and now Okon is potentially available. Considering no one else that we have potentially chased wants the job, you feel we can be picky about who we go after? Okon should be a candidate.

CCM in the past have paid the cap minimum, I don't know about this year but it's a pretty reasonable assumption that it's the cheapest squad in the competition, whereas the Phoenix came into this year with two marquee players. Okon ticks quite a few boxes, knows the league, good at development, plays the style of football that the Phoenix aspire. He has had no success at a high level but neither have the other names floated around, and he has the excuse of having the poorest team in the comp.

Hire Money!

Miller > Okon

The CCM squad is quite simply terrible, but Okon has managed to get them playing a nice style of football. 

My one criticism of him and this team is that they always take the easy option and don't have any transition game at all. I don't think this is a minor issue either; while the build up and team shape should be applauded, that really is only half the job.

I'd take Greenie over him.

(Yeah, I know he's not qualified, but he is a fairly well-positioned benchmark)

Let's not forget that Okon did have Asdrubal, a decent Primera Liga striker, for 11 games and that Asdrubal played in that win over Sydney (which actually backs up your statement)

And I do hear ya Royz and I really like Okon and having Asdrubal all season would have helped them a lot. For most of the season I loved watching his team play, it's just lately that it's started to become irritating to see how conservative they are going forward.

Scott Miller said on the A-League Hour, that he was watching the Phoenix v Jets game "live". His exact words when discussing newcastles high line and lack of pressure in midfield "...and I was watching the game live..."

Given we are both looking for coaches, sharing this post from our site by a poster looking at whose available. Remember this is a Mariner poster about a future Mariner coach...

Arthur Papas is back at Green Gully, would be a good fit and personally my preferred option, Green Gully do not have an overly large budget yet they regularly does well. Has traveled the globe to try and improve his coaching, from India to Saudi Arabia.

Scott Miller moved to Denmark to be an assistant coach and would have some good overseas links, his Newcastle team did reasonably well.

Mark Crittenden has a record unparalleled in the NSW NPL and has developed quite a few players that went on to do well in the A-League after they had been cast aside by A-League clubs.

Ben Cahn has done extremely well with a limited budget at Olympic and is currently leading the Queensland NPL.

Gary Phillips has been coaching in Malaysia and the Philippines and doing well, currently unemployed.

John Anastasiadis has done a brilliant job regularly with the Bentleigh Greens but they do have a rather large budget for the NPLV so what he could offer us might be limited

George Katsakis has been doing a terrific job with Heidelberg for a number of years and beat Perth Glory in the cup last year as well as taking out the overall NPL finals, Heidelberg do have a rather large budget though. He bleeds for Heidelberg though and probably couldn't be lured

Chris Taylor was let go by South Melbourne, basically a coup by the board that a whole bunch of people disagreed with, he has a terrific record in the NPLV for a number of years not just with South Melbourne but with clubs with much smaller budgets.

I've been thinking about this too and I'm sorry that you're tired of hearing about it, because here I am about to post some more about it (sorry!)

At Melbourne, Merrick played high and narrow, at Newcastle he plays high and narrow. At the Phoenix he started playing high and narrow, but found himself frequently burned with Sigmund and Durante lacking the required pace to play a high line. He publicly stated he wanted to play high but couldn't, so the Phoenix became deep and narrow.

https://www.a-league.com.au/match/wellington-phoen...

Wingers were frequently used at the Phoenix; often the front 2 were set up as wingers. Wing backs were prominent at Melbourne. 

Narrow does not mean that players do not frequently play in wide spaces. In fact narrow formations are effective for overlapping into wide areas. Conversely, some coaches will open the field up to play down the middle. 

"G'day Paul, Wellington's a great place to live. We've got the world's best flat whites and awesome cheese scones... See you on the other side of the Ditch soon mate".