Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA (Part 2)

If FFA is not interested in giving Consortium "X" (insert Canberra, Hobart, Geelong etc here) a licence on their own merit, the fact that Welnix may sell it to them directly should make no difference to FFA not approving it.

Conversely, if FFA is now talking expansion, there is less reason to buy  a licence off Welnix if one can be got directly from FFA.

They are talking expansion though

They are; apparently two teams in the following season edition of the league - smells of desperate rearguard by FFA in face of ongoing stirrings among the club owners and FIFA visits.

a 2 (likely) + 3 (iffy) + 3 (more iffy) year HAL licence

(this season is only the 2nd season of the first licence block of 4).

https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/new-adelaide-f...

The new AUFC owners are willing to spend the cash on a new stadium for the club..

Just makes me sad knowing we could have had our own stadium for at least 2 years by now.....

Was never going to happen without a twenty year license.

I see the Warriors close to sale at between 20 to 24m. Based on that, where would the Nix be if membership of the A League was confirmed.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/10...

Oh yep that is interesting

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/wellington/wellington-mornings-with-heather-du-plessis-allan/audio/phoenix-owner-somethings-got-to-happen/

So I was right - they are holding on until there is change in the A League and the club is worth some money.

I don't have much sympathy for him and the owners for their moans and groans - they could do a lot better with running the club than what they are.

He didn't say that at all

He really made it clear that the Nixs are a deadbeat club until if/when the changes at FFA happen. Just hope FIFA do there job and clear up the FFA arrangement with the A-League clubs.

Brave interview .... don't think this will win any pink bats in Australia ... more over will increase calls for Welly Out...

EDIT: Gareth is as hes says a "Reluctant Owner"  he has for some years now. But stays involved because they stay to save it for Wellington.  Cost neutral is all the Clubs want. 

Think it was pretty obvious what Gareth was alluding to and to pretend otherwise is really just a case of denial. Lets face it Gareth lost interest in the Phoenix along time ago and has moved on to other things. Think it would be more worrying if other members of Welnix started expressing similar thoughts on the record.

Yep i might also be in denial but prefer to have some faith in others in Welnix because i fear any other alternative  may mean we lose what we have even a badly performing Phoenix is better than the alternative of having NO Phoenix.

Not exactly an inspiring interview.

If this is what’s coming from an owner on public record I’m not surprised that half the time the players don’t look like they care.

We all know what Gareth is like, the Australians may not, but we do. I'm surprised he hasn't said things like that before. 

He's not the sort of person to allude to anything, he'll say it outright so I'm inclined to take what he says on face value which is about what you'd expect.

Quite clear from Gareth's interview he at least wants out as a owner and is waiting the right oppurtunity. Not happy about his investment.

How many of the others do also in the Welnix group.

The concern now would be the ownership group selling the licence to an Australian based investor or investors. I think that is far more likely than finding a NZ based new owner/ownership group. 

But Gareth did remind us of the behind-the-scenes moves to take the HAL away from FFA, and give control to the clubs, and of Rob Morrison's leadership in trying to make that happen. I belief that's our best chance of a secure, and brighter future. And who knows, maybe a second HAL team at some stage. 

He says:

1. He's a reluctant owner and it costs a lot of money

2. He doesn't want to fold it because he bought it to stop it from folding 

3. He want's the league to reform to make it fairer for the Phoenix but he's thinking that reform is going to be incremental.

4. The Phoenix are on the market as are all A-League teams, he indicates he'd sell to a consortium of overseas investors like Man City.

5. He doesn't think the license will be renewed unless something changes.

6. The goal is for the Phoenix to break even but that's a tough ask.

All pretty obvious things.

Given the jerkish things he did during the election (and after, eg gloating about the death of the PM's cat), the sooner Gareth Morgan in particular stops part-owning my football club, the better.

I think Gareth has a habit of saying what he thinks without thinking through how they will be interpreted, he probably wasn't being insensitive in his own mind and definitely went on a Trump like tirade at the media for skewing his intentions afterwards. But, a lot of people associate the Phoenix with him negatively, a lot of people think he's the sole owner because he's a publicity hound and the others are more reticent. It would be nice if he was more taciturn but he's not and so his relationship with the Phoenix does hurt the teams brand.

But, if there's no one else and he's writing cheques then who am I to complain.

so we angst at Dome not being up front and honest - but think Gareth is a dick for doing so?

Not a lot of hope coming  out of that interview

Interesting.  I thought the other owners had put the skids under Gareth for most of the reasons that interview reveals.  Guess he talked his way into staying.

Anyone in the job market?

https://www.seek.co.nz/jobs?advertiserid=27429392

If only it didn't include working matchdays

Welp, I'm now even more worried. Thanks Gareth.

Gareth's hardly been involved in the running of the club.

I'd suggest that Rob is far more circumspect than old Gareth and I know who I think you're most likely to get the truth out of [however painful it might be for you Patrick and others].

I think Rob probably shares a lot of the same thoughts, the points Gareth raises are all pretty much in line with what has always been said apart from the fact that he's a reluctant owner.

What WelNix have said, and what even the above interview has not contradicted is they bought the Phoenix for Wellington and they want it to be self sustaining.

Easy to ask questions to get the info to back anyone's slant on a topic. Just ask the RBB :-)

Because apparently if FIFA steps in and forces the FFA to relinquish control, and if the Phoenix are then granted the same license as the other clubs, and if there is a buyer then whatever paltry sum the club is worth makes all this risk and effort (not to mention ten years worth of accrued losses) worthwhile.

Need to put up one:

Footballers urgently required.

Can kick a ball in the net or use your head. Go for 90+ minutes. Can stare at the opposition like John McKain and happy to seamonster the odd Robbie Kruse.