Was - Phoenix Transfer Speculation (Part 1)
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Terrifyingly. It would suggest that no good players want to stay with the Nix. It suggests that all those stories about how Terry's money worries are causing the Nix to stink in the eyes of any decent footballers are true. The inability to attract, or keep, decent players will kill our club more surely than any IRD lawsuit. 
You just want to be quoted in the next NBR article!
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Would only be Marco, and maybe Ward, I'd be concerned about losing.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I'm particularly upset by the idea that Marco might move to another A-League team. What exactly is wrong with the Nix, as compared to the Tards or the Bling? Money? Youth team? Weather? Or just distrust of the management or coaching situation?
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I'm sorry, but losing Marco AND Wardy really would be a punch to the guts, combined with the fact that in all this transfer rumour-mongering, no-one but no-one wants to move to the Nix. The only players we seem to be able to keep are the ones no-one else wants.
It might be the Christchurch thing upsetting my emotional equilibrium, but this has caused me to despair of the Nix's future for the very first time.Doloras2011-02-23 12:11:03
It might be the Christchurch thing upsetting my emotional equilibrium, but this has caused me to despair of the Nix's future for the very first time.Doloras2011-02-23 12:11:03
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I'm particularly upset by the idea that Marco might move to another A-League team. What exactly is wrong with the Nix, as compared to the Tards or the Bling? Money? Youth team? Weather? Or just distrust of the management or coaching situation?
So am I. Rest of it didn't concern me. If we cannot hold on to players that get started here and lose them to teams offering similar contracts in the same league something is very wrong. I'm hoping that part of it isn't on the money.
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I'm sorry, but losing Marco AND Wardy really would be a punch to the guts, combined with the fact that in all this transfer rumour-mongering, no-one but no-one wants to move to the Nix. The only players we seem to be able to keep are the ones no-one else wants.
It might be the Christchurch thing upsetting my emotional equilibrium, but this has caused me to despair of the Nix's future for the very first time.
It might be the Christchurch thing upsetting my emotional equilibrium, but this has caused me to despair of the Nix's future for the very first time.
Q. Is dunnix a Tard supporter getting back at you and therk?
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I'm sorry, but losing Marco AND Wardy really would be a punch to the guts, combined with the fact that in all this transfer rumour-mongering, no-one but no-one wants to move to the Nix.
I wonder if we also suffer a bit from the same problem as the Warriors. That a high number of Aussie players would rather go to a sh*t team in Aus than come across to NZ.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Q.� Is dunnix a Tard supporter getting back at you and therk?
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The update to the Nix wiki page was made about half an hour ago, which actually does strike me as a bit suspicious that dunnix would have picked up on it straight away. But it comes from an IP that has been making unexceptional and accurate edits to Nix-related pages for quite a while now.
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WE CAN'T LOSE WARD AND ROJAS!!
How on earth is Perth more of a drawcard than Wellington!?
If Australians don't come here then we have to sign New Zealanders
Wee-mac, Brockie in another year, Fallon/Killen and maybe CunninghamLuis Garcia2011-02-23 12:32:16
How on earth is Perth more of a drawcard than Wellington!?
If Australians don't come here then we have to sign New Zealanders
Wee-mac, Brockie in another year, Fallon/Killen and maybe CunninghamLuis Garcia2011-02-23 12:32:16
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If true that Marco has turned down Youth Marquee, then Roddy's reported comments about the initial offer being an "insult" were totally hypocritical, if no amount of money was ever going to be good enough.
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I suppose what's really disturbing me is that News is tacitly admitting that there's some truth to at least the Marco situation. So whoever this wiki editor is, they have inside information not available to us mortals.
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I think we all just need to step back and take a deep breath here, people.
Nobody's gone anywhere. Yet.
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"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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To be honest, I don't understand all the angst. Like News, I suspect there's a mix of fact and speculation in there, but ultimately, it's nothing really new.
Marco's future with the Nix has been in question for the last couple of months, Ward has never really viewed the Nix as a long-term option for him, and the other guys have either been on the margins or in the areas we need to improve in.
So if any of this is coming as a huge shock/surprise, you've been living under a rock for the last wee while.
Marco's future with the Nix has been in question for the last couple of months, Ward has never really viewed the Nix as a long-term option for him, and the other guys have either been on the margins or in the areas we need to improve in.
So if any of this is coming as a huge shock/surprise, you've been living under a rock for the last wee while.
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Perhaps I have been living under a rock, because I assumed (a) that Ricki/Terry would throw as much money at Marco as they had to; (b) Marco and his dad would have some loyalty. That there would be hard negotiations but Marco would accept Youth Marquee and, I dunno, one of Terry's second-hand Lamborghinis.
I would be much happier if there were at least some gun players who did want to play for us but weren't forced to by a contract. As it is, it really does look like everyone who can jump ship is doing so. Which suggests that the Nix stinks in the nostrils of all decent players, which suggests a real and critical threat to the future of the club, much more so than Terry's money issues.Doloras2011-02-23 12:55:16
I would be much happier if there were at least some gun players who did want to play for us but weren't forced to by a contract. As it is, it really does look like everyone who can jump ship is doing so. Which suggests that the Nix stinks in the nostrils of all decent players, which suggests a real and critical threat to the future of the club, much more so than Terry's money issues.Doloras2011-02-23 12:55:16
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Perhaps I have been living under a rock, because I assumed (a) that Ricki/Terry would throw as much money at Marco as they had to; (b) Marco and his dad would have some loyalty. That there would be hard negotiations but Marco would accept Youth Marquee and, I dunno, one of Terry's second-hand Lamborghinis.
I would be much happier if there were at least some gun players who did want to play for us but weren't forced to by a contract. As it is, it really does look like everyone who can jump ship is doing so. Which suggests that the Nix stinks in the nostrils of all decent players, which suggests a real and critical threat to the future of the club, much more so than Terry's money issues.
I would be much happier if there were at least some gun players who did want to play for us but weren't forced to by a contract. As it is, it really does look like everyone who can jump ship is doing so. Which suggests that the Nix stinks in the nostrils of all decent players, which suggests a real and critical threat to the future of the club, much more so than Terry's money issues.
How do we know they haven't?
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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To be honest, I don't understand all the angst. Like News, I suspect there's a mix of fact and speculation in there, but ultimately, it's nothing really new.
Marco's future with the Nix has been in question for the last couple of months...
Marco's future with the Nix has been in question for the last couple of months...
So if any of this is coming as a huge shock/surprise, you've been living under a rock for the last wee while.
I was hoping that Marco's father was letting his son concentrate on the football and was prepared to take his time seeing what interest there was from overseas. That comment, if correct, indicates he will not be here next season even if there is no european offer.
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To be honest, I don't understand all the angst. Like News, I suspect there's a mix of fact and speculation in there, but ultimately, it's nothing really new.
Marco's future with the Nix has been in question for the last couple of months, Ward has never really viewed the Nix as a long-term option for him, and the other guys have either been on the margins or in the areas we need to improve in.
So if any of this is coming as a huge shock/surprise, you've been living under a rock for the last wee while.
Marco's future with the Nix has been in question for the last couple of months, Ward has never really viewed the Nix as a long-term option for him, and the other guys have either been on the margins or in the areas we need to improve in.
So if any of this is coming as a huge shock/surprise, you've been living under a rock for the last wee while.
^ Pretty much this.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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The thing is the credibility of Anonymous Wiki Editor (who's coming in on TelstraClear from Wellington). As I mentioned, all his/her previous edits have been factual and trustworthy. They state as a fact that Marco is not going to play for the Nix again no matter how much money they throw at him.
To make it clear: if we can't keep Marco and Nicky, or replace them with players as good or better, we will probably be wooden-spooners next year. And for many years after that. It's back to the Knights, with the inevitable result of the shift of the licence to Canberra or Woollongong or wherever. It is the death of professional football in New Zealand.Doloras2011-02-23 13:00:20
To make it clear: if we can't keep Marco and Nicky, or replace them with players as good or better, we will probably be wooden-spooners next year. And for many years after that. It's back to the Knights, with the inevitable result of the shift of the licence to Canberra or Woollongong or wherever. It is the death of professional football in New Zealand.Doloras2011-02-23 13:00:20
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If we loose marco to an a league club...Rargh. Overseas i don't mind so much, would of liked 1 more year I remember Ricki sounding pretty odd in his comments about it. I think we lost him (based on nothing obviously but I do :()
raynes2011-02-23 13:07:20
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To make it clear: if we can't keep Marco and Nicky, or replace them with players as good or better, we will probably be wooden-spooners next year. And for many years after that. It's back to the Knights, with the inevitable result of the shift of the licence to Canberra or Woollongong or wherever. It is the death of professional football in New Zealand.
Whoa. Overreaction much
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Not overreaction. A logical thought process. I can't be the only one who is terrified at the fact that the Nix as it stands can't hold on to any players who are (a) good enough, (b) not already contracted. I don't know how many wooden spoon seasons it would take before the FFA pull the plug, but it doesn't seem insane to argue that a wooden spoon season is precisely what will happen if no top-ranked player wants to stay with or join the Nix. For all we know, Iffy, Manny and Dura would also be on their way if they weren't under contract.
As I say, if there were even one rumour that we were getting a gun striker, right back, center midfielder or Marco replacemenet from somewhere, I would breathe easier.Doloras2011-02-23 13:13:51
As I say, if there were even one rumour that we were getting a gun striker, right back, center midfielder or Marco replacemenet from somewhere, I would breathe easier.Doloras2011-02-23 13:13:51
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As Marco hasn't actually gone anywhere, rumours of his replacement may be a tad premature.
All this because we are, possibly, losing two players?
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I'm sorry, but losing Marco AND Wardy really would be a punch to the guts, combined with the fact that in all this transfer rumour-mongering, no-one but no-one wants to move to the Nix. The only players we seem to be able to keep are the ones no-one else wants. It might be the Christchurch thing upsetting my emotional equilibrium, but this has caused me to despair of the Nix's future for the very first time.
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Anyone who is "calm" at the moment must surely only be so because they don't consider the wiki editor to be credible. Or must disagree with me that losing Marco and Nicky without equally good replacements would mean a wooden spoon season next year, which, combined with the money issue, would mean a credible threat to the future of the Nix and therefore of pro football in NZ.
Seriously - if we find a gun youth player on a scholarship and he quits after half a season in the starting lineup - even though being offered Youth Marquee - that surely says something about what the Nix has to offer any top ranked player right now.
Seriously - if we find a gun youth player on a scholarship and he quits after half a season in the starting lineup - even though being offered Youth Marquee - that surely says something about what the Nix has to offer any top ranked player right now.
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Not overreaction. A logical thought process. I can't be the only one who is terrified at the fact that the Nix as it stands can't hold on to any players who are (a) good enough, (b) not already contracted. I don't know how many wooden spoon seasons it would take before the FFA pull the plug, but it doesn't seem insane to argue that a wooden spoon season is precisely what will happen if no top-ranked player wants to stay with or join the Nix. For all we know, Iffy, Manny and Dura would also be on their way if they weren't under contract.
As I say, if there were even one rumour that we were getting a gun striker, right back, center midfielder or Marco replacemenet from somewhere, I would breathe easier.
As I say, if there were even one rumour that we were getting a gun striker, right back, center midfielder or Marco replacemenet from somewhere, I would breathe easier.
Its snowball logic.
One bad thing happens,therefore its not a stretch that something else bad will happen,therefore something worse is possible. You'll eventually get to the end of the world!
It's a logical thought process,but bad logic.
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Tegal: good point, actually. I am prone to snowball logic. Sorry if I'm freaking anyone out, but I think my central point - that an inability to attract or keep top players will hurt the Nix far worse than Terry's financial shenanigans - is a solid one, and I would like to hear suggestions about what the Nix could do about it.
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Loyalty in football.Interesting concept. [/QUOTE]
But wait...
[QUOTE=Ryan Nelsen]I don't think I could feel comfortable playing for another club now, having put so much time and effort into Blackburn. It just wouldn't sit right
Ryan is such a dreamboat.
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Probably work on paying players on time may help 
Getting a spot in the ACL.
Getting a spot in the ACL.
Shift NZ closer to Australia so we don't have to travel as far.
Rort the salary cap melbourne storm style.
Give all players one thunderstick,tell them they'll get the 2nd when we win the league. We'll win the league then then we'll be able to attract players and save the world.
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Probably work on paying players on time may help
If Terry's financial escapades have lost us Marco, then I withdraw every single "benefit of the doubt" comment I ever made about him and demand that he sell the club right now to someone who doesn't alienate good players.
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