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WPM R9 vs WS Wanderers | Sun 22nd Dec | 7:00pm | Sky Sports 1

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ClubOranje
InsulinMachine
kwlap
Where is OVH?

Hasn't done enough imo

And again:

The kid has had 2 10 minute spells and thrown under the bus for 45 minutes as wingback ; you know, the sort of deep end Rojas hasn’t had to do because “he hasn’t played much football for 2 years”

Last year he had 1 goal, 4 assists, won a penalty and had a guy sent off for dogso. All in 372 minutes. Better figures than anyone in this squad.

I know why Nate the Grate doesn’t select him; and it’s not  because he has   ‘biggest brain in the a-league’, but really curious why yellow fever guys hate on him so much?

Surely you don’t all have zero understanding of football?

Is it a racism thing? Anti-semitism? Transphobia? Homophobia? 
Heterophobia maybe?
Did he shag someone’s girlfriend? 
Still think Frank is his father?

What is it?

What are you on about? People  have subjective feelings about footballers, news at 11.

You've completely lost the plot here.

OvH has come off the bench a few times and hasn't done a whole lot, so doesn't get more minutes. Simple as that. Pretty clear you have a personal vendetta here though.

a.haak

over 1 year ago
ClubOranje
InsulinMachine
kwlap
Where is OVH?

Hasn't done enough imo

And again:

The kid has had 2 10 minute spells and thrown under the bus for 45 minutes as wingback ; you know, the sort of deep end Rojas hasn’t had to do because “he hasn’t played much football for 2 years”

Last year he had 1 goal, 4 assists, won a penalty and had a guy sent off for dogso. All in 372 minutes. Better figures than anyone in this squad.

I know why Nate the Grate doesn’t select him; and it’s not  because he has   ‘biggest brain in the a-league’, but really curious why yellow fever guys hate on him so much?

Surely you don’t all have zero understanding of football?

Is it a racism thing? Anti-semitism? Transphobia? Homophobia? 
Heterophobia maybe?
Did he shag someone’s girlfriend? 
Still think Frank is his father?

What is it?


What it is? None of the childish nonsense you just listed.

You see it all over the globe. A kid might only get a few minutes here and there to prove himself. And if the coach doesn't see anything worth his while he won't play again, simple as that.

Getting more minutes "so you can improve" is wishful thinking. You improve in training and then bring it in game. And if not, you'll find a club/league that's closer to your skill level.

I wish him all the best and hopefully he can find another level but I'm not sure it'll be in the A-League.
over 1 year ago
ClubOranje
InsulinMachine
kwlap
Where is OVH?

Hasn't done enough imo

And again:

The kid has had 2 10 minute spells and thrown under the bus for 45 minutes as wingback ; you know, the sort of deep end Rojas hasn’t had to do because “he hasn’t played much football for 2 years”

Last year he had 1 goal, 4 assists, won a penalty and had a guy sent off for dogso. All in 372 minutes. Better figures than anyone in this squad.

I know why Nate the Grate doesn’t select him; and it’s not  because he has   ‘biggest brain in the a-league’, but really curious why yellow fever guys hate on him so much?

Surely you don’t all have zero understanding of football?

Is it a racism thing? Anti-semitism? Transphobia? Homophobia? 
Heterophobia maybe?
Did he shag someone’s girlfriend? 
Still think Frank is his father?

What is it?

Wow massive over reaction. Given Chiefs record with playing young players not sure you can really question if he thinks OVH has had enough opportunities to show what he has got and prefers to give others a shot.
Thats not saying he may not make it elsewhere just obviously not showing Chief what he wants to see from him. 
Trust Chiefs judgment he hasnt missed on many. 

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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For Oskar's sake I do hope I'm wrong, but it seems like at this point the thing he will best be remembered for while playing for the first team, is coming off the bench and providing that excellent free kick delivery which led to Surman's late late equaliser against Victory.
over 1 year ago
Forget minutes, he's been in the first team for 3 whole years now. I do think he improved a fair bit last season, but it's not enough. He'll be 23 by the end of the season, and frankly I'd rather give any minutes up for grabs to Walker, who's 4 years younger and looks bloody electric at times
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

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ClubOranje
InsulinMachine
kwlap
Where is OVH?

Hasn't done enough imo

And again:

The kid has had 2 10 minute spells and thrown under the bus for 45 minutes as wingback ; you know, the sort of deep end Rojas hasn’t had to do because “he hasn’t played much football for 2 years”

Last year he had 1 goal, 4 assists, won a penalty and had a guy sent off for dogso. All in 372 minutes. Better figures than anyone in this squad.

I know why Nate the Grate doesn’t select him; and it’s not  because he has   ‘biggest brain in the a-league’, but really curious why yellow fever guys hate on him so much?

Surely you don’t all have zero understanding of football?

Is it a racism thing? Anti-semitism? Transphobia? Homophobia? 
Heterophobia maybe?
Did he shag someone’s girlfriend? 
Still think Frank is his father?

What is it?


No he isn't Frank's son. But I do know his actual Dad does post on here from time to time.

OVH had a good season in Chiefy's first campaign as head coach. Filling a variety of roles. I was at the Roar game in Brisbane, where he was mostly at RWB, and he impressed with a crunching tackle to save a possible goal, and then won the ball near the Roar's box, leading to Al-Taay crossing for Kraev to nod home.

This season I thought/hoped he could part fill the void left by Old's departure. That's based around the fast counter attack transistion setup of last season.

Is he a victim of Chief seeking a more 'stylish' possession based game plan this season? There just being other players better in that setup?

Whilst it's tough not getting many mins in A League games to show your stuff, as Jazzy above says he's been in the first team squad 3 seasons now. That's countless training sessions to be judged on. In pro football ever session you are yes being assessed. 

I'm a fan, of a 3rd NZ team somehow being launched out of ChCh, in the next few years. It's a shame that young Kiwis like OVH (and others like Randall, even Champness) ain't getting much mins this ALM season. Sometimes it can be that you are ALM quality, but just don't fit into a particular coach's setup/plans. If you are a young Aussie in such a predictament cast adrift, well you have 10 other clubs that might look at you.

Unfortunately for OVH his contract expires at the end of this season, and unless things change quickly at the Nix it's hard to see him being re-signed. Down to NZ domestic football, the LOI, USL or Finland as likely next destinations. Such is the brutal world of pro football.
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I wouldn’t phrase it the way Orange dude has at the end, but kind of agree with him close on 100%. 

Chief has limited resources. He’s got two guys who’ve had pro experience and put in good shifts for the team before. 

Ball I can somewhat understand that he might not be able to perform as well as he could. I would have faith in him holding the ball and drawing a foul in the last 5, but I’m not watching him in practice, so maybe he’s really dropped off? Feels like we might have  benefited from his experience in some of the games we’ve butchered late.

We’ve also had issues scoring outside Kosta. He had one season where he produced fewer assists and goals. And as a fan I was keen to see him get form back. But perhaps Chief is prioristising athleticism and defensive shape or some such.

OVH though I’m really struggling to understand. As has been said he was effective off the bench last season. Almost the same number of minutes as Cola I’d guess and a bunch of points can be attributed to his efforts. 

Chief has had him for last season and now the off season and has suddenly discovered he can’t play? 

If so it’s a failure to use the resources he has at his disposal. If OVH can’t even make a squad he must be either a) unfit/injured b) disciplined for a reason or c) worse than the other selected players. 

I can’t accept it is c because I’ve seen our games. If it’s a or b Chief should be telling us. 

Long story short, we can have all the tactical plans we want, but if Kosta is our only consistent goal scorer we’re going to struggle. 

It’s hard to accept given how toothless we are off the bench and that given how much time he’s had that all he’s discovered is that he doesn’t want two of his more experienced squad. 

The kids who had a breakthrough last season were already well in the mix- Paulsen, Old, Surman …and the newbies in Sheridan, Conchie, Supyk and Hughes got limited minutes. Lukas Kelly-Heald was a glorious exception who got a lot of playing time. 

We’re getting to the point where Chief has to play players because we haven’t got anyone else. That doesn’t seem like careful youth development. 

Add to that Van Hattum was part of a reserves team with Rufer, Paulsen, Surman and Old, and that I’d almost expect him to be developing a bit of leadership within the squad with the others either gone or captain. 

I don’t understand the way these guys are being treated given how limited our squad is. I’m also looking north at Callan Elliot and seeing a perfectly good player who fell out with the club for one reason or another. 

If there’s a brilliant plan, such as large numbers of players coming in January, let us know what it is. Otherwise…

Edit: Christ I’m glad this isn’t a management forum based off the number of posters who are willing to flush OVH’s professional career. He has never been a dribbler like Old, but he did well for us last season winning us points on multiple occasions. You’re contending he should be finished as a pro footballer because…

Watching Chief faff around this season with Piper, Payne and Colakovski up front, none of whom contributed sfa as a 9, I think we definitely should be at least be demanding to hear Chief’s rationale for what he’s doing. 


over 1 year ago
Where OVH sorta lucks out on is he doesn't really excel in a certain skill set, his finishing isn't good enough for a striker, he's not that great of a dribbler to beat players as a winger, he doesn't have that burst of pace which can change a game as an impact sub. He's got a decent cross on him and uses his body well but definitely needs to add another element to his game to really excel at A-League level.
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wilbaker
Where OVH sorta lucks out on is he doesn't really excel in a certain skill set, his finishing isn't good enough for a striker, he's not that great of a dribbler to beat players as a winger, he doesn't have that burst of pace which can change a game as an impact sub. He's got a decent cross on him and uses his body well but definitely needs to add another element to his game to really excel at A-League level.

Kinda of agree. He's been a bit unlucky from memory (hitting the post at least once??), but he's also had clear chances to score that he's failed to convert. 

One of the better crossers in the team, but yeah without say improving his finishing or speed, could be assessed as just too 'journeyman', for the Nix to re-sign him. Their financial model is that young guys coming in via the Academy like OVH, need to be seen as having the potential to be sold to an overseas club. As per Jazzy above, if the 4 years younger Walker is now seen as more likely to be that player to sell for a transfer fee, that's bad news for OVH.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360530843/bomb-scare-disrupts-phoenix-preparation
over 1 year ago
OVH just doesn't have a 'defining qality'.

Kosta has pace (and knows how to time/angle a run), Rojas has great technical ability etc, what does OVH bring that makes him a game changer or a must include.

Seems a nice kid... but he lacks any sort of X Factor for me.
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On the other hand, having to play a 18 year old in a physically demanding league isn’t necessarily good for his development. Getting him kicked by Luke Brattan isn’t going to help that much. Old spent a long time with the reserves.

I’d counter that Van Hattum has shown himself to be a committed team player, who keeps his focus at crunch points. He got the flick on for Zawada’s goal. He has had a number of clutch successes. 

Maybe leaving him out is a bit of shock therapy by Chief. Perhaps the only spot Chief sees for him is advanced RB and he’d prefer Sheridan there anyway, as a backup to Payne.

It just seems ridiculous, given how threadbare our squad is, to suddenly decide the guy who was good enough for us when we were top of the league can’t even find a bench space in a team that’s 6th, with 3-4 other sides putting pressure on even that. 

I mean I don’t necessarily consider him to be the solution to all our problems, but I want us to win some games.

I’d say two things to think about- one is that some players such as Rufer fully matured later. The other is that if a coach can’t find a role for a player that’s not always the player’s fault alone. 

Anyway- as you are saying it’s a results business. OVH wasn’t producing enough in what Chief’s seen and we’re lower on the table than we’d like. Let’s hope the January window is used a couple of times at least and it’s not too late for our season. 

As another aside, cohesion in a team is usually important and I think perhaps we underestimate the value of several, at least second year, imports, plus a bunch of players very familiar with each other from the reserves in last year’s successes. 


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Riffing on the above:  in addition to what ML NZ said: 
Kosta has pace, but also a tremendous ability to judge a chance and not waste time on it if it looks marginal. That is experience.  And his finishing is deadly.
Rojas is great technically, but also has a superb awareness of players around him; despite being way off full fitness, he already makes a difference where it matters.
OVH would do himself a favour if he aims at Kosta's fitness and self-discipline.  This might be easier to improve on than pure raw talent that Rojas and Kosta both have.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

over 1 year ago
Dont get why anybody thinks Chief has to explain himself to the fans for ANYTHING he has done or may do in the future. Since when are football coaches obligated to tell the fans what their plans are. Think thats expecting way to much from a coach.
If a player hasnt had the chance to impress in a game then the only place to do it is in training and if they still havnt been able to impress the coach. How can you then expect that player to be picked ahead of others.
Also dont see why Callan Elliot has been brought up that relationship appeared to have faults on both sides and in no way has any bearing on OVH.


GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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I'd add I don't think the squad is threadbare. Colakovski was always a bonus signing, becoming available last minute just before the season started.
OVH, GSR, Ball and the talented Brooke-Smith will all be sitting back in NZ this weekend.

Rojas is now starting, so we can only assume is approaching full fitness.

Semantics but Walker will be 19 next month. That's not too young, to hold your own in the ALM.

The other guy to mention that's keeping OVH out of squads now is Supyk. Again you can only guess that at training, him & Walker are showing more than van Hattum. At least in Chiefy's eyes, who sees them every day.

Having said all this, Italiano may still make a signing in the Jan window. But with all 5 visa spots taken, he will have limited options to choose from. Noting season will be a 3rd over, so anyone coming in has to be fit, and quickly be a useful addition.

Jay Herdman? Oli Whyte? Myer Bevan? Anyone from the rumoured Perth Glory clean out? Auckland might as well release Joey Champness! 

Edit - I’ll also throw Monty Patterson into the mix. Watch almost zero National League, but from what I’ve read he was an absolute standout at Birkenhead, and a better more mature player than when last at the Nix
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ballane
Dont get why anybody thinks Chief has to explain himself to the fans for ANYTHING he has done or may do in the future. Since when are football coaches obligated to tell the fans what their plans are. Think thats expecting way to much from a coach.
If a player hasnt had the chance to impress in a game then the only place to do it is in training and if they still havnt been able to impress the coach. How can you then expect that player to be picked ahead of others.
Also dont see why Callan Elliot has been brought up that relationship appeared to have faults on both sides and in no way has any bearing on OVH.


If you’re feeling good about being 6th, two derby losses and minimal bench impact if Rojas has started, good for you. 

If you think the coach can do what they like and don’t have to explain themselves, again likewise. 

I think if a coach is doing odd things such as choosing defenders to be their number 9s in Piper and Payne, it’s a courtesy to fans to explain what on earth they are doing. Especially if it isn’t going well. 

I wouldn’t cough up money to see either of those players in a number 9 position. 

Callan Elliot is an example of a player we invested time in that we’re getting no benefit from. It’d be unfortunate to see OVH in a similar situation. Unless of course, he’s clearly a terrible footballer and sunk costs applies, which seems to be the majority opinion?!? 

And Oli Whyte and Taggart please.


over 1 year ago
martinb
ballane
Dont get why anybody thinks Chief has to explain himself to the fans for ANYTHING he has done or may do in the future. Since when are football coaches obligated to tell the fans what their plans are. Think thats expecting way to much from a coach.
If a player hasnt had the chance to impress in a game then the only place to do it is in training and if they still havnt been able to impress the coach. How can you then expect that player to be picked ahead of others.
Also dont see why Callan Elliot has been brought up that relationship appeared to have faults on both sides and in no way has any bearing on OVH.


If you’re feeling good about being 6th, two derby losses and minimal bench impact if Rojas has started, good for you. 

If you think the coach can do what they like and don’t have to explain themselves, again likewise. 

I think if a coach is doing odd things such as choosing defenders to be their number 9s in Piper and Payne, it’s a courtesy to fans to explain what on earth they are doing. Especially if it isn’t going well. 

I wouldn’t cough up money to see either of those players in a number 9 position. 

Callan Elliot is an example of a player we invested time in that we’re getting no benefit from. It’d be unfortunate to see OVH in a similar situation. Unless of course, he’s clearly a terrible footballer and sunk costs applies, which seems to be the majority opinion?!? 

And Oli Whyte and Taggart please.
Chief already explained playing Tim Payne higher up the pitch in a recent press conference (and he wasn’t playing as a 9), and Corban Piper got put up top for literally 2 minutes at the end of a game just to be a physical presence and a nuisance for the opposition.
over 1 year ago
Cheif has pretty much explained his "fluid" plan, pre-season and in recent pressers - he's obviously not going to give too much away that the opposition gets unnecessary insites. The question I'd like answered is around the compexity of the plan - are the tactic too complex, too fluid for the players?

Queenslander 3x a year.

over 1 year ago
Care to point out where i have said im happy with being 6th. Just dont think a coach has to explain himself to the fans or go into detail why he is doing something with particular players. As others have pointed out he HAS  explained in small detail why he has done a couple of things yet you seem to want more and i for one dont think we should expect that. Rojas is coming from the bench for a reason and no way was him starting the season from there part of the plan.
Again dont get why you use Callan Elliot as an example he is just one of a number of players who the Phoenix have invested time in and have moved on for any number of reasons. The club cant be expected and nor should it be expected that we keep all the players we have invested in.
Could be wrong but i was under the impression Elliot had move on because him and the club couldnt agree on contract terms had nothing to do with his playing ability. Happy to be corrected on that point

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I was surprised that they left OVH out entirely, as I hold the opinion he’s a better player than a few in the squad.
Particularly as we haven’t had much impact off the bench and he certainly did last year. 
I think for the Orange dude it’s either a personal connection or something like that. 

I think it’s okay to say our squad was quite a bit better last season. Some of it is player v player last season was better, some of it is last season’s players knew each other much better as they’d played together longer and some of it is Chief introducing a new way of playing, but being a player or two short of doing it well or it taking a while to bed in. 

I’d love to see Supyk do well, but he’s got no pedigree at this level yet. Certainly not in terms of replacing Zawada, Kraev or Old. Would be overjoyed if he played a few games and did, of course! And as has been said we’re not seeing him train.

As well as that Al-Taay, OVH and Ball have played less than we might have expected. This seems to be a Chief tactic as last season one of our more experienced players in Sutts was initially benched. Perhaps it hasn’t worked so well as the younger team replacing them isn’t as cohesive as last season’s. 

And yeh, sorry bit lazy not listening to Chief’s post game’s if I want him to explain his decisions. 

Finding it frustrating this season we’re very close to being a very good team, but somehow not quite there. And the worst examples come from us offering little threat off the bench, compared to various opponents. 


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Elliot playing for Auckland and playing well sharks me. That we didn’t get a fee for him when he left makes it worse. Would hate to see that situation repeated with any of our recent players. 

I really felt he was going to become one of those club stalwarts, potentially like Kosta has become or like Rufer.


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The Nix did offer Elliot a contract, but he delayed signing it as he wanted a gig overseas. The club lost patience as they wanted to plan for the following season, so withdrew the offer. No overseas gig materialised for young Callan, and he found himself without a club for 6 mths or so, before his fizzer of a time at Motherwell 

Seemed that the Nix partly made an example of him, as a warning to other young players and their agents they won’t be strung along forever with negotiations. Fair enough

In Elliot’s defence at the time he was the only one of Des’s 2019 U20 starting 11 not playing overseas. So I reckon that played into his mind. Now of course he has Pijnaker with him in NZ
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coochiee
The Nix did offer Elliott a contract, but he delayed signing it as he wanted a gig overseas. The club lost patience as they wanted to plan for the following season, so withdrew the offer. No overseas gig materialised for young Callan, and he found himself without a club for 6 mths or so, before his fizzer of a time at Motherwell 

Seemed that the Nix partly made an example of him, as a warning to other young players and their agents they won’t be strung along forever with negotiations. Fair enough

In Elliott’s defence at the time he was the only one of Des’s 2019 U20 starting 11 not playing overseas. So I reckon that played into his mind. Now of course he has Pijnaker with him in NZ

Yeh, particularly after Scrappy Do went to Newcastle and then went overseas which was a bit messy or something. 

Yeh as everyone is saying plenty on both sides of that and we’ve got 4 fairly decent candidates at FB these days, if Lukas K-H is still operating at his best. 
Edit: 5 with Mr. Xuan Loke signing! Now I remember him having an impact off the bench in a cup game. 

But maybe he could have moved back into an attacking role or a midfield role. He’d be good at pressing high up and it’d be a good challenge to see if he could run an attack from a 10 or wide 8…

Don’t blame the club or him at all- just irks me to see him in blue and black!


about 1 year ago
All this discussion over a guy who's a squad player at his absolute best is crazy.


a.haak

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valeo
All this discussion over a guy who's a squad player at his absolute best is crazy.



How do you know what his absolute best is? We’ve spent a lot of time on Hughes, on Sheridan, on Fin Roa Conchie and a lot of others who are perhaps marginal as starters. They’re all Phoenix family.

I feel like this is what was pissing ClubOranje off so much- the dismissive attitude towards OVH and his achievements, while overlooking other players’ failings. 

No one is calling for Sheridan to be cut from the squad after a poor sub appearance at LB and few of us are as sneering about Colakovski despite 0 goals and 0 assists, and few passes or successful dribbles completed. 

If Marco produced the assists OVH did last season it’d be a sign he was Kiwi Messi returned. 

Despite recent expectations, not everyone who starts in the A league needs to be ready to play in Ligue Un or the MLS. You can be a good A league pro without signing for Bournemouth. 

The discussion is because he’s been left out of the squad after the main competitor for his spot picked up a long term injury. That’s discussion worthy.

Edit: and I think you were spot on about Hughes, and explained that tricky situation really well, but I think  a few people here are reacting to things other than the shifts we’ve seen Oskar put in, given we’re not watching training. 


about 1 year ago
So in summary YF hive mind- Oskar needs to be showing form to be starting or ship out? 

He needs to adapt to a position and prove his worth there? Somewhere other than RWB, where he had some success last season or forward where he’s not scored many, despite contributing? 

Or he’s already on the scrap heap with Ball? And probably his work last season was appreciated, but not enough at this point? 

I don’t know if he’s the kind of footballer who can change his game the way Tim Payne has.

Anyway, I may find out in press conferences, but I don’t watch all of them due to an anti-jinx thing!

Anyway here’s hoping Supyk shows a bit if he gets a decent chance and our table slide stops here. 


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Bit pointless comparing Colakovski's lack of goals or assists in his 137 Nix mins, to OVH. Cola came in cold to the Nix, with no pre season at all. OVH on the other hand has been around the senior squad for about 3 seasons, and the club even longer.

Pro football is brutal. It's a tough gig. Players come and go. OVH may yet be offered a new deal by Gill & Chiefy. Is still two thirds of the season to go. But again the Nix's model is trying to sell as many Academy kids into Europe/MLS as possible. It's a balancing act of winning games, and giving the Weenix grads game time so they progress.

It just maybe that 22 yr old OVH (23 next April), is going to have other younger players getting mins ahead of him. As someone posted above Walker has more that exciting X factor. We wait to see, and yeah we ain't watching trainings.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360523305/all-you-need-know-wellington-phoenix-v-western-sydney-wanderers-league-men

Midfielder Fin Roa Conchie is likely to take Colakovski’s spot on the bench after returning from injury. Forwards David Ball and Oskar van Hattum would be more suitable replacements but they remain on the outer.
about 1 year ago
We don't really know all the information on why these two are missing out though, maybe they didn't make the cut. But it seems with our lack of depth and experience they would be a shoe in. David Ball is a great pro and seems like a good guy. He battles and would be a massive player to bring on in games we are either chasing or need to close out, he always did the dirty work.  Which makes me think there is more to it than we see. Maybe it could be as simple as failed fitness tests.
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Future X factor ain’t winning many games. Usually most goals scored, no?

If I’m understanding all these brutal rules correctly that is.


about 1 year ago
Will be on the plane so unfortunately won't be able to watch the match, but that doesn't change how fired up I am, especially after yesterday, COYN!

Also please no goal from another ex-Phoenix.
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Nommag
We don't really know all the information on why these two are missing out though, maybe they didn't make the cut. But it seems with our lack of depth and experience they would be a shoe in. David Ball is a great pro and seems like a good guy. He battles and would be a massive player to bring on in games we are either chasing or need to close out, he always did the dirty work.  Which makes me think there is more to it than we see. Maybe it could be as simple as failed fitness tests.

It could be. But it isn’t. Seems quite clear that both are fit, but not what Chief wants. 

Which fair enough. Buck stops with him and all. He’s the Chief. 


about 1 year ago
Game day! Let's show Auckland what winning looks like!
about 1 year ago
Please please please win to make this the perfect weekend 🙏
about 1 year ago
I'm going 2-1 for this one - a double from Kosta, mostly for selfish reasons as I'd love to see him hit 100 A-League goals in person

🔥🔥COYN🔥🔥
about 1 year ago
Hughesy I hope you have the best game. Come on boys. 

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

about 1 year ago
Maybe our defense be as determined and stubborn in pursuit of the ball as the forum in argument and let’s win this…

Firing up! 🔥 

Phoenix till I die


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Wow, looking at some of the comments on this thread so far we are definitely getting a bit grumpy. Fair enough to question the exclusion of OVH and Ball again but I think it is laughable to expect some sort of explanation from the coach... I feel like the Chief is owed a bit more respect than that. I would also be willing to bet that that the Chief has more footballing knowledge in his little toe than most of the commenters here. 

That being being said, 🔥🔥 fire up lads. Maybe just not at each other on the forum 🤣
about 1 year ago
Been asked a million times but what pub do Nix fans usually meet for away games? Thinking of dropping in, haven't decided yet
about 1 year ago
Noah4thenix
Been asked a million times but what pub do Nix fans usually meet for away games? Thinking of dropping in, haven't decided yet
Four Kings usually
about 1 year ago
Insanity to leave both OVH & Ball out of the squad if they are both fit